Talk:David Miller (South African cricketer)

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On 9 March 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to David Miller (cricketer). The result of the discussion was not moved.

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 18:49, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Miller (South African cricketer) → David Miller (cricketer) – There are 3 cricketers called David Miller with a Wikipedia page, and the South African is by far the most notable, the first only umpired two games, the second only played two FC seasons in England, but the South African has had a long White Ball career. By far most notable. Clearly most popular cricketer: [1] and his page is the only one that really gets views: [2] just scroll for the numbers over time. He gets around 300, whilst the others get around zero. Servite et contribuere (talk) 00:44, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The provided links don't work. This David Miller is the most WP:RECENT of the three. I don't personally see what purposes would be served by ambiguating the title. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:20, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BarrelProof I might have put them in incorrectly. I will see what I can do. But from what I saw and know, he is clear primary topic, but of course, when saying that, we should also be reminded of NOR. I will see what I can do, I was wondering if the links didn't work in your location (You don't have to tell me but you can), they don't work in my location (Australia). I will see what I can do. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 03:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 00:33, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paine Ellsworth We are only talking about Cricketers named David Miller Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:25, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry, editor Servite et contribuere, the page views have been adjusted to include the South African, Australian and English cricketers. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 08:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I don't think ambiguating the title helps anyone. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Users researching a cricketer bearing the common name "David Miller" would simply type "David Miller", rather than the incomplete disambiguation "David Miller (cricketer)", which is certainly less informative than the existing form, "David Miller (South African cricketer)", per comment by BarrelProof. David Miller (cricketer), which currently redirects to the David Miller dab page, should more-specifically redirect to David Miller#Sports, which can have a section sub-header ===Cricketers===, thus enabling the even-more-specific redirect, David Miller#Cricketers. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:09, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This David Miller is not the primary topic for the search term "David Miller", so the title should be sufficient to disambiguate him from the other individuals named David Miller. "(cricketer)" isn't sufficient in this regard. – Michael Aurel (talk) 04:36, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Keep in mind that there 2 Cricketers named Steve Smith with an article and one is simply Steve Smith (cricketer) whilst the other is Steve Smith (cricketer, born 1961). Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:57, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The last RM for that one was closed as "no consensus". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:45, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We aren't discussing talking about making David Miller (South African cricketer) simply David Miller. We are discussing whether this article should be titles simply as David Miller (cricketer). I feel like there is a misunderstanding amongst a lot of people here Servite et contribuere (talk) 06:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The proposal there wasn't to move Steve Smith (cricketer) to Steve Smith, but to Steve Smith (cricketer, born 1989). – Michael Aurel (talk) 09:42, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but one user did say that the cricketer named Steve Smith born in 1989 is the overwhelming primary topic for cricketers named Steve Smith, I would say the same thing about South African cricketer David Miller Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.