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Is this really a miniseries?

I haven't seen any confirmation about it being so, and that is why I asked this. Thanks. Mattgelo (talk) 10:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is sourced in the "Creative overhaul" section as being a big "limited series", which is just used interchangeably with "miniseries". It doesn't have two seasons (which would not make it limited or a miniseries) but rather is split up into two parts. Most of Marvel Studios' MCU series are miniseries by definition unless they get additional seasons, and there is consensus to use the "miniseries" term for these series. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's confirmation that season 2 is filming soon: https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1822119928180117798?s=19

So I guess it means this show is no longer a miniseries, and a full-fledged series like the Loki series. Mattgelo (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we may want to wait for further clarification on this season wording, as we have it sourced that may not be exactly used due to some contractual reasons. It may not be the case anymore, though it is something to be mindful of. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Feige specifically said season 1 is coming next year and season 2 is filming soon, so if there were contractual reasons for not saying season those may have been resolved now. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added this source but haven't tried to update the wording we have around the article yet. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should adjust the wording to be season 1 is nine episodes with season 2 in the works, and previous reports were it being 18 episodes, or classified as "parts". - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We can use this TVLine source as well if needed, as they were the site Cox told about 9 episodes being filmed so they bring it all together: Cox told TVLine that nine episodes were filmed, to premiere in March 2025 — and now comes word, via the cast’s appearance at D23, that filming on a second season will begin “soon.” - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the article with this wording and source. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we should also consider the second season as the final one exactly like Andor (TV series). In fact this is a 18-episode limited series with 2 seasons consisting in 9 episodes each one. Tizio Incognito (talk) 08:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source to support that? - adamstom97 (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. This article specifies that the series will have two seasons. Tizio Incognito (talk) 13:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it specifies that there will only be two seasons, just that there will be at least two. And even if there are only two seasons, that would be stretching the common definition of "limited series". - adamstom97 (talk) 16:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In fact I didn't say that it should be indicated as a "limited series" but only to consider the second season as the final one when the first one will have been distribuited on March 2025. This has been done also for [[Andor (TV series)]. Tizio Incognito (talk) 16:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no source confirming the second season will be its last. You are just assuming based off of what another separate work did, which is not how Wikipedia works. Unless you have a source confirming there will only be two seasons, this is pure WP:SPECULATION, which is not allowed. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's not anymore "pure WP:SPECULATION" because this article confirmed that the series will run for 2 seasons with a total of 18 episodes. Tizio Incognito (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That source does not confirm this. It is not a great source to begin with and it is not reporting that there will only be two seasons, it is just discussing what is known so far. - adamstom97 (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it isn't a great source, why it is used in various pages? Tizio Incognito (talk) 14:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, just because another article does something does not mean we should do it here. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway also Deadline, which should be a "great source", called Daredevil: Born Again a "two-season series" in this article. Tizio Incognito (talk) 14:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The official announcement of a second season came after that article, so it is out-of-date. I still wouldn't think that supports what you want it to support. We are in WP:NOHURRY, if this is truly going to end after two seasons then we will get a more definitive source to support that claim in due time. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Episode count

Cox confirmed that they have filmed 9 episodes for the show. I don't think that means that the other 9 episodes won't be made, but potentially the plan has changed. I know there is a source out there saying Marvel is going to see how the first 9 go before making more, but it isn't a reliable source. Sneider tweeted about this as well but doesn't have any extra info to add yet. - adamstom97 (talk) 16:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I figured this was the case. I'm sure there will be some more concrete reports in the coming months as to when they film the remaining 9 eps (which I know rumors have said would be in November). I agree that they are most likely still happening, though it's definitely something to keep an eye out for more context. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First and second seasons?

Currently, this article refers to the episode count as two halves of nine each. However, recently at D23, Kevin Feige has referred to the first 9 episodes as "season one". Should we update this for this article as well as for the info of the series at the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Five article? AxGRvS (talk) 21:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been raised above in #Is this really a miniseries? - adamstom97 (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Season drafts

For those who may be interested, there are drafts for potential season articles for this series here:

Thanks, adamstom97 (talk) 14:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've also started making a version of what this main page would look like after a split in my sandbox here. The big thing I think we'll have to figure out is the "Background" and "Development" sections and if there's a little more or less that needs to stay here versus what would be on the season pages. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]