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Nominator: Cathodography (talk · contribs) 21:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Chchcheckit (talk · contribs) 14:39, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Alright, I'll do this. As is, the article looks extremely promising and in-depth, though there are parts which need copyediting or tidying up. Since I do not have access to some of the book sources, I would appreciate it if you could provide/type out relevant paragraphs when it comes to spotchecks. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:39, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Okay, I've decided I'm going to work through this section by section since there is a lot to do. For clarity, I'm going to color-code quoted text. Blue for article text, purple for my suggestions, green for valid spotcheck, orange for partially good but has issues, and red for unverified/unsupported by citations. Also, my copyediting suggestions are NOT intended to be definitive, moreso like rough outlines you can choose to follow or not (and my ideas may suck). If you have objections/questions, voice em. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:05, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'll need to revisit this later on, but for now:

  • Clube da Esquina (Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈklubi dɐjsˈkinɐ], in English "Corner Club") is a collaborative double album by Brazilian musicians Milton Nascimento and Lô Borges, associated with the eponymous musical movement. It became Nascimento's fifth studio album and Lô's first, after which Lô pursued a solo career. Gave body of text a glance, and I suggest redoing it like this:

Clube da Esquina (Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈklubi dɐjsˈkinɐ], in English "Corner Club") is a collaborative album by Brazilian musicians Milton Nascimento and Lô Borges, released as a double album in March 1972 by EMI-Odeon Records. It was Nascimento's fifth studio album and Lô's first, after which the latter pursued a solo career. The duo recorded the album in November 1971 at Piratininanga Beach in Niterói and Odeon Studios in Rio de Janeiro, where they collaborated with musicians from the eponymous musical movement, which they helped establish.

Done Cattos💭 17:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conceived at a time of political tension in dictatorial Brazil, the album faced resistance from EMI-Odeon over its double-album format. Seems to imply that political tension was responsible for EMI-Odeon not wanting double album, although article content does not suggest this; I would also suggest the first part being used as context for its themes (see below). Alternatively, you could provide the supporting text if it exists.
  • As for the musical paragraph, it could be redone like this:

Musically, Clube da Esquina features a mixture of MPB, baroque pop, and folk with elements of rock, psychedelia, jazz fusion, and classical music. Conceived at a time of political tension in dictatorial Brazil, it explores themes of friendship, liberty and youth. The cover, photographed by Carlos da Silva Assunção Filho, better known as Cafi, shows two boys, Cacau and Tonho, on a dirt road near Nova Friburgo, in the mountains of Rio de Janeiro, close to where Nascimento's adoptive parents lived.

Done Cattos💭 17:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded. Also, due to "poor and disposable" quote and MOS:LEADCITE, add the quote citation to the lead.

  • Initially, Clube da Esquina was reviewed negatively due to critics not understanding the album's mixture of genres and influences, being described as "poor and disposable", though it was commercially successful both in Brazil and abroad. With the help of word of mouth and changing critical perceptions, the album started to acclaim positive reviews. The album has received several awards and nominations from publications. It won in the Discoteca Básica  [pt] podcast, being voted as the greatest albums of Brazilian music, was nominated as the second best Brazilian album by the Eldorado FM radio audience and was nominated in the Brazilian Rolling Stone magazine, making it seventh in the list of 100 greatest albums of Brazilian music.

Clube da Esquina received negative reviews from contemporary Brazillian critics, who viewed it as "poor and disposable" and did not understanding the album's mixture of genres and influences. It was nevertheless commercially successful in Brazil and abroad. With the help of word of mouth and changing critical perceptions, it has retrospectively received critical acclaim. Featured in the reference book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (2010), Club da Esquina was named the Greatest Brazilian Album of All Time by the Discoteca Básica [pt] podcast in 2022, with Paste ranking it as the ninth greatest album of all time in 2024.

Done Cattos💭 17:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • (i removed awards/accolades because redundant, and because the "greatest album of all time" is more notable on its own)
  • Also, you should explain what later critics acclaimed/praised about the album, from the legacy and reapprisal section.
  • i'll get to the sequel paragraph in a bit. im still working through thoughts.
  • Also, from Initial reception section: and members of the group became commercially viable as a recording artist.[118] Provide the supporting text from Grasse 2020, p. 107.
    • "The album sold well, and Milton became commercially viable as a recording artist, as did Guedes, Horta, and Lô Borges." I noticed that the quote is from this book by McGowan and Pessanha, as it is referenced at Grasse's work. I will replace "Grasse 2020, p. 107" to a Cite book for the respective page to its original work. Cattos💭 17:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Everything else

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Broad

  • checkY Unquestionably passes. High detail and covers a lot of things, i.e. the cover, recording, basically yeah no question

Stable

  • checkY Stable since March 8.

NPOV

  • pending

Copyvio

  • checkY Passes, earwig highest percentage is 14.5%. No excessive use of quotes
  • Cover has fair use rationale, other photographs are creative commons or public domain. Passes. Captions are relevant to article content; the musicians and two very notable ppl.
  • Song sample has rationale, and just about complies with rationale of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples (4 minutes = 24 seconds, which the sample is).
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