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I added the "update" notification as this article is now out of date. I'm sorry that I don't have time at the moment to make the changes but:

  • The new classification schemes need to be added and explained.
  • The basic classificiation scheme needs to be updated. This is the scheme currently listed in the article but is being revised and updated. As of this moment, Carnegie hasn't released the final version of the basic classification scheme.

It would also be nice to summarize the classifications' history, the reasons why the classification was updated and changed, and how/why people use (and misuse) these classifications.

--ElKevbo 20:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page has been updated with 2005 classifications. More history and context would be nice. --ElKevbo 16:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Carnegie Classification Web site <- this link on page appears to be broken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.190.191.84 (talk) 18:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Looks like they just redesigned their website. I fixed this link but I wonder how many other broken links we have throughout Wikipedia now... :( --ElKevbo (talk) 18:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 2018 classification are found at; http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reerickson (talk • contribs) 19:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Master’s Colleges and Universities - doesn't make sense

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At the beginning of the section, it says that to be in the section an institution must "awarded at least 50 master’s degrees in 2003–04, but fewer than 20 doctorates." Then it goes on to subdivide the main section into three groups. 1: More than 200. 2: 50-150. 3: less than 50.

If they award less than 50, they shouldn't be in the category. What about colleges that award between 150 and 200?! in which category do they fall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.87.254.215 (talk) 05:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch! I fixed it. ElKevbo (talk) 05:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Typographical Error Identified

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“using to the same criteria” under the ninth revision. Can this be updated to exclude the extra “to”? Kuggerands (talk) 21:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 14:40, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
You removed “the” instead of “to”, therefore, the sentence still contains a typographical error in my opinion.
Please advise. Kuggerands (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. ElKevbo (talk) 16:06, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

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  • What I think should be changed (include citations): Rework the second paragraph in the article to include updated language based on the 2025 changes to the Carnegie Classifications. Instead of: The classification generally focuses on types of degrees awarded and related level of activity such as research. The classification includes all accredited, degree-granting colleges and universities in the United States that are represented in the National Center for Education Statistics' Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS). It should read: The classification includes all accredited, degree-granting colleges and universities in the United States that are represented in the National Center for Education Statistics' Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS).
  • Why it should be changed: The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education recently updated its classification system to better reflect the multifaceted nature of higher education.

Carnegie Classifications Release 2025 Research Activity Designations, Debut Updated Methodology Carnegie Classifications Redesign Better Reflects the Higher Education Landscape and Recognizes Student Success

  • What I think should be changed (include citations): Update the first paragraph under "History" to include the latest updates (2025). Instead of: The Carnegie Classification was created by the Carnegie Commission on Higher Education in 1970. The classification was first published in 1973 with updates in 1976, 1987, 1994, 2000, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2018 and 2021.[1] To ensure continuity of the classification framework and to allow comparison across years, the 2015 Classification update retains the same structure of six parallel classifications, initially adopted in 2005.[1] The 2005 report substantially reworked the classification system, based on data from the 2002–2003 and 2003–2004 school years.[2] It should read: The Carnegie Classification was created by the Carnegie Commission on Higher Education in 1970. The classification was first published in 1973 with updates in 1976, 1987, 1994, 2000, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2018, 2021 and 2025, with subsequent updates every three years. The 2025 update substantially reworked the classification system to better reflect the multifaceted nature of higher education.
  • Why it should be changed: The updates above reflect the latest 2025 updates to the Carnegie Classifications of Institutions of Higher Education.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education Carnegie Classifications Release 2025 Research Activity Designations, Debut Updated Methodology Carnegie Classifications Redesign Better Reflects the Higher Education Landscape and Recognizes Student Success

  • What I think should be changed (include citations): A new section on the newest classification (called the Institutional Classification) should be added, to reflect the 2025 updates.

Title: Institutional Classification Text: The Institutional Classification organizes institutions based on three dimensions, including the types of degrees they award (Award Level Focus), the subjects in which they award degrees (Academic Program Mix), and the size of the institution (Size). Institutions are grouped with peers who share similar characteristics across these dimensions. Previously known as the Basic Classification, the Institutional Classification was introduced as part of the system’s 2025 update.

Award Level Focus Award Level Focus is the focus and mix of award levels at an institution; generally, this is where they award the most degrees. There are six categories: - Associate: Institutions that primarily award associate degrees. - Associate/Baccalaureate: Institutions that primarily award associate degrees but that also award a sufficient number of bachelor’s and/or graduate degrees. - Baccalaureate: Institutions that primarily award bachelor’s degrees and that do not have a significant graduate program. - Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s: Institutions that have both a graduate and undergraduate presence, with an emphasis on the master’s degree, and that do not have a significant doctoral program. - Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate: Institutions that have both a graduate and undergraduate presence, with a sufficient focus on the doctorate. - Graduate-focused: Institutions that are mostly focused on graduate studies.

Academic Program Mix Academic Program Mix accounts for the fields of study in which institutions award 50% or more of their degrees. For most institutions, the classifications use data on undergraduate degrees only. For graduate-focused institutions, the classifications use data on graduate degrees only. - Special Focus: Generally, the majority of degrees are awarded in a single academic area or field of study. Professions-focused: The majority of degrees are awarded in fields that are classified as pre-professional or career-aligned. - Mixed: Fewer than 50% of degrees are awarded in any one focus area.

Size The size of an institution is measured by its total 12-month headcount, including full- and part-time students, and including undergraduate and graduate students. - Very Small: Fewer than 500 students total - Small: Between 500 and 4,000 students total - Medium: Between 4,000 and 20,000 students total - Large: Between 20,000 students and 40,000 students total - Very Large: At least 40,000 students total

In the 2025 update, institutions were organized into 31 classifications based on these dimensions. In cases where groups included fewer than 30 institutions, dimensions were combined in order to create more meaningful and useful classifications. Additionally, Very Small and Small size classifications were combined into Small, and Large and Very Large were combined into Large.

The 2025 Institutional Classifications are:

Associate Colleges - Mixed Associate Large - Mixed Associate Medium - Mixed Associate Small - Professions-focused Associate Large/Medium - Professions-focused Associate Small

Associate/Baccalaureate - Mixed Associate/Baccalaureate - Professions-focused Associate/Baccalaureate

Baccalaureate - Mixed Baccalaureate - Professions-focused Baccalaureate Medium - Professions-focused Baccalaureate Small

Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s - Mixed Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s Large/Medium - Mixed Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s Small - Professions-focused Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s Large/Medium - Professions-focused Undergraduate/Graduate-Master’s Small

Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate - Mixed Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Large - Mixed Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Medium - Mixed Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Small - Professions-focused Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Large - Professions-focused Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Medium - Professions-focused Undergraduate/Graduate-Doctorate Small

Special Focus Institutions - Special Focus: Applied and Career Studies - Special Focus: Arts and Sciences - Special Focus: Arts, Music, and Design - Special Focus: Business - Special Focus: Graduate Studies - Special Focus: Law - Special Focus: Medical Schools and Centers - Special Focus: Nursing - Special Focus: Other Health Professions - Special Focus: Technology, Engineering, and Sciences - Special Focus: Theological Studies

The Carnegie Classifications do not consider elements like selectivity, admissions data, or other factors that may be used to identify certain types of campuses. The Institutional Classification is a reflection of institutional type, largely based on the degrees an institution awards, regardless of other characteristics.

  • Why it should be changed: This new section explains the latest Carnegie Classifications redesign. It was changed to better reflect the higher education landscape. The Institutional Classification (previously known as the historic Basic Classification) is just one of numerous updates in 2025. The Institutional Classification organizes institutions based on three dimensions (Award Level Focus, Academic Program Mix and Size). All of those categories are now in this edit request and properly linked back to the Carnegie Classification web page with more information about every category.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Carnegie Classifications Redesign Better Reflects the Higher Education Landscape and Recognizes Student Success Additional links are above for each of the Institutional Classifications.

Title: Research Activity Designations Text: The 2025 Carnegie Classifications include research designations as separate listings from the Institutional Classification. The 2025 update revised the methodology for the Research 1 and Research 2 categories and also introduced a new Research Colleges and Universities designation. In total, there are three research designations, all of which are set by a threshold. [detailed list of schools can be found in the list of research universities in the United States].

The designations include:

Research 1: Very High Spending and Doctorate Production On average in a single year, these institutions spend at least $50 million on research & development and award at least 70 research doctorates.

Research 2: High Spending and Doctorate Production On average in a single year, these institutions spend at least $5 million on research & development and award at least 20 research doctorates.

Research Colleges and Universities On average in a single year, these institutions spend at least $2.5 million on research & development. Institutions that are in the R1 or R2 categories are not included.

  • Why it should be changed: This section should be added to show the latest 2025 Research Activity Designations and the updated methodology for the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.
  • What I think should be changed (include citations): A new section on the brand new Student Access and Earnings Classification should be added to this page to reflect the system's 2025 update.

Title: Student Access and Earnings Classification Text: The Student Access and Earnings Classification examines the extent to which an institution is enrolling students who reflect the communities it serves and whether an institution’s former students go on to earn competitive wages compared to peers in their area. The Student Access and Earnings Classification was introduced as part of the system’s 2025 update. The classification is based on the calculation of two measures: 1. Access: The classification evaluates whether institutions are enrolling a student population that is representative of the locations they serve. This is measured through examining the enrollment of undergraduate students by Pell grant status and underrepresented race/ethnicity, relative to the locations that students are from. 2. Earnings: The classification compares median post-attendance earnings to earnings of people in their area ages 22-40 who hold a high school diploma or higher. Recognizing that student data is variable based on geographic location and race/ethnicity, earnings data was analyzed based on the geographical and racial/ethnic composition of the student body.

  • Why it should be changed: This is a new section in the 2025 updates from the Carnegie Classifications. It better reflects the latest rollout from the institution and explains a new and important classifications for universities across the country.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Student Access and Earnings Visualization 2025 Carnegie Classifications Fact Sheet Student Access and Earnings Press Release

  • What I think should be changed (include citations): Another new section should be added to this page to reflect another new designation announced by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. This one is called the OCU designation, or "Opportunity Colleges and Universities."

Title: Opportunity Colleges and Universities (Higher Access, Higher Earnings) Text: Opportunity Colleges and Universities (Higher Access, Higher Earnings) institutions have an access ratio of at least 1 and an earnings ratio of at least 1.5 (for baccalaureate and higher institutions) or 1.25 (for primarily associate colleges).

Higher Access, Medium Earnings Higher Access, Medium Earnings institutions have an access ratio of at least 1 and an earnings ratio of between 1 and 1.5 (for baccalaureate and higher institutions) and 1 and 1.25 (for primarily associate colleges). Higher Access, Lower Earnings Higher Access, Lower Earnings institutions have an access ratio of at least 1 and an earnings ratio of less than 1. Lower Access, Higher Earnings Lower Access, Higher Earnings institutions have an access ratio of less than 1 and an earnings ratio of at least 1.5 (for baccalaureate and higher institutions) or 1.25 (for primarily associate colleges). Lower Access, Medium Earnings Lower Access, Medium Earnings institutions have an access ratio of less than 1 and an earnings ratio of between 1 and 1.5 (for baccalaureate and higher institutions) and 1 and 1.25 (for primarily associate colleges). Lower Access, Lower Earnings Lower Access, Medium Earnings institutions have an access ratio of less than 1 and an earnings ratio of less than 1.

Visualization and Classifications The Student Access and Earnings Classification separately analyzes access and earnings outcomes. The classification visualizes institutions using both of these measures and compares the institution to others that share the same Institutional Classification.

  • Why it should be changed: This is a brand new classification. The Student Access and Earnings Classification was released in April 2025 alongside the revised Institutional Classification. This section explains the Opportunity Colleges and Universities classification and what it entails. It describes the different sections so readers can better understand how it fits into the larger picture of classifications.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Opportunity Colleges and Universities by Institutional Classification Opportunity Colleges and Universities by State 2025 Student Access and Earnings Classification

  • What I think should be changed (include citations): There should be an additional section on this page called "Future Updates" to detail the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education's future plans.

Title: Future Updates Text: The Carnegie Classifications are updated every three years, with the last release finalized in 2025. The next release of the Carnegie Classifications is planned for spring 2028. Future methodology, including data sources, will be determined closer to release.

  • Why it should be changed: The classifications will continue to be updated every three years to better reflect the state of higher education in the United States. It's important to inform readers of this.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
  • What I think should be changed (include citations): The "see also" section should be updated with the following links:

- List of higher education associations and organizations in the United States - List of research universities in the United States

KLearyBeClear (talk) 16:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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