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Italy

Should the last executionn be in 1946?--AJ44 (talk) 19:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Why, if the last time it was done was in 1947, as shown here: Capital punishment in Italy? That-Vela-Fella (talk) 20:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

It was on march 4, 1947, at 07.45 a.m, by a firing squad, in Turin. Three men were executed having murdered ten persons in Villarbasse, an hamlet near Turin. This was the last execution in Italy. --Dedofreg (talk) 13:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The death penalty was valid until 2007,[1] in 1994 only the punishment was replaced by life sentence but it was still allowed per Article 27 of the Constitution until the article changed into "death penalty is prohibited"[2]. Egon20 (talk) 08:16, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.prefettura.it/FILES/AllegatiPag/1187/Costituzione_ENG.pdf
  2. ^ https://www.senato.it/documenti/repository/istituzione/costituzione_inglese.pdf

Caribbean Islands

For some reason some Caribbean Islands are in red, when the death penalty in the countries have not been used in 10 years. Shouldn't they be in Orange?--Villa88 (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

August 2004 or May 2005?

I'm getting confused! Amnesty International USA claims that Iraq's death penalty was reinstated in August 2004, but sources say it was reinstated in May 2005! Which date of the death penalty reinstation in Iraq is correct? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 23:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

British Abolishment Date

Britan did not ratify the Abolition untill 2003. So why is it 1998?--Villa88 (talk) 23:41, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm perhaps the best bet would be to do what entries like Switzerland has and list both 1998/2003. 1998 is when it was abolished, 2003 just made sure we cant change our minds about it with out leaving the council of europe or breaching its rules. BritishWatcher (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Beluras situation

I found the link were it says, "Beluras will eventually abolish the Death Penalty". Here is a link to the site [1]--Villa88 (talk) 23:07, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

It gave no time frame as how soon that would happen, just that it didn't need to be done by a referendum. I seen that site before, but unless concrete steps are taken, nothing soon would be changed. Being the last one in Europe will have a lot of pressure put on the state to follow the rest of the continent one day. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 11:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, it says it will be chosen by vote, so the abolishment can happen anytime.--Villa88 (talk) 00:28, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

New Discussion

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Jumping the gun?

After reading the source concerning Burundi's recent activities, it only mentions that the lower parliament had approved to abolish the death penalty, yet I have not seen it officially become law by the Senate & President agreeing to it in any online source. Even the AI site has not listed the nation as an abolitionist state yet too. So until it's official, it should not be dated to have been abolished already. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 13:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Israel/PA

I couldn't help but notice some clear bias when comparing the Israel and Palestinian Authority sections. The Israel section referred to Meir Tobianski as a "traitor" even though he was later exonerated. Meanwhile, the PA section contained some POV material (presented within quotation marks, but not given any context) and information on extrajudicial killings by Hamas. I have corrected all of these issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.65 (talk) 15:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The PA (Judea and Samaria) and Hamas (Gaza) execute homosexuals in public by inverted hanging.

Timor-Leste

It says that the death penalty was abolished in East Timor in 1999. East Timor did not gain independence until 2002. Someone please find the real date. Reenem (talk)

That is the correct date, since the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor took control in 1999 & as stated here at AI's site. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

AI or Hands off Cain

There seems to be an unilateral edit of the figures that do not match with those shown on the Amnesty International website & those from the Hands Off Cain numbers. Those numbers conflict with the previous up-to-date ones on the AI site that are also sourced, while those from HoC are not the most recent as claimed by the editor. The HoC site states (updated to: April 28, 2009). Those numbers from AI on it's website was last updated on June 1, 2009 8:02:31 AM (from page info). If the HoC site is valid, then a note in the article could be added to it rater than changed to be in conflict with the other website numbers. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 15:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The source said it updated the same day automatically. It is in contradiction with itself: it said that some countries such as Guyana and Antigua are retentionist although there were no executions during the last decade. The words "child offenders" are NPOV, and the number of execution (2580) is unreliable because AI said herself that is below the reality. 90.29.211.25 (talk) 20:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Again you changed it unilaterally from what it had been for months & without any input from others. The source from HoC is not based from any other aside from it's own. Please refrain from doing any more changes until it can be verified, otherwise an admin/mod would look into this matter.

I would also point out another website that uses AI & not the HoC for it's source, that being on InfoPlease. If you read the sentence on the last line, it said at LEAST, meaning the minimum based from various sources AI has gotten. Also the words "child offenders" although were fine, but it was more clear to what you had, thus left as is now. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 22:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

In 2008 AI recorded at least 1718 executions in China, while Hand off cain recorded 5000 ones. That's funny!Cristiano Toàn (talk) 03:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is, because AI used official sources made available, yet they also state the number would be much more, closer to what HoC stated unofficially.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Never?

I noticed that some countries have 'never' listed for date of last execution. I removed the one for Bosnia and Herzegovina and replaced it with 'none since independence.' Then I noticed a lot more nations had 'never.' So I decided to bring the issue here... Anyone have any thoughts?

I think that 'never' gives almost an unfair characterization over other listings - surely some form of execution took place there at some point, but there are simply no records, etc... Pr0me7heu2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC).

I was thinking it would be fine for those places to instead have N/A (to either signify Not Applicable OR Not Available) to make it not only as a general reference to cover it but also neutral. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Togo

Togo abolished the death penalty on the 23rd of june, 2009. I have changed the colour of the table to mark it as an abolitionist nation. --Île_flottant~Floating island (talk) 11:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

2009 topic

In some countries such as Barbados, Guyana, Saint Lucia, Lesotho, Dominica, Sierra Leone have more than 10 years without a death penalty carried out. So you should take them in "de facto abolish" group Cristiano Toàn (talk) 13:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

"De facto abolitionist" requires not just an absence of executions, but a government policy of doing so. Secondly, the classification is by Amnesty International, so wejust go with what they say (otherwise, it would be Original Research, which is apparently a Bad Thing on Wikipedia) --IdiotSavant (talk) 20:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I added in further clarity as to what places fall under that category with additional info from the AI site, it stating "and are believed to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions". That-Vela-Fella (talk) 08:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Capital punishment in Eritrea

The last known excution in Eritrea was carried out in 1989 when Eritrea is a part of Ethiopia. So the Eritrea's last execution cell is "none since independent" raplace blank cell because Eritrea de jure declare indepenpdent from Ethiopia in 1991. Cristiano Toàn (talk) 00:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

True, it should state that it's last one was in 1989, even though it wasn't fully independent yet. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 09:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Capital punishment in Liberia and Tajikistan

The last known excecution in Liberia and Tajikistan was carried out in 2000 and 2004, respectively. Up to now, two above countries have not yet spent over ten yaers of monatorium, so sort these countries in "retentionist"Cristiano Toàn (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

From what the descriptions states, it's OR a moratorium is in place, no matter if it's less than 10 years or more. So for Tajikistan, it's correct as the note on it explains. Now as far as Liberia is concerned, it did abolish it, but since the law was brought back for it last year, it has yet to be used in practice. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 08:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Guyana

Funny. the article says Guyana is red while the article on List of most recent executions by jurisdiction says Guyana is orange. Could someone clarify that? L'Etoile D'Ours —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.14.146.92 (talk) 11:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Amnesty International wrong in classification

I don't know the AI classifies both Barbados and the US in "retentionist countries". No execution were known in barbados since October 1984, while US have executed people every year since then and approx. 1000 people were carried out in this period. That is funny!Cristiano Toàn (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Not really, given that Barbados has less than 1/1000 inhabitants than the US. If they had had just one execution during this period, they would have been "worse" per capita than the US...--Roentgenium111 (talk) 01:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles

Could somebody add Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles? Even though they aren't independent countries, they are countries with their own independent capital punishment legislation, the Netherlands Antilles took until March 2010 to abolish the death penalty completely, while Aruba has been a complete abolitionist by constitution since its (incomplete) independence.ThW5 (talk) 11:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

if we were to make an article titled "capital punishment in the Netherlands Antilles", we are gonna have to make that article into a historical document because the Netherlands Antilles no longer exists. 24.16.35.160 (talk) 02:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Map mistake

In the world map, Russia should be coloured orange, not blue, according to the claims in the article. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

No it should be green because it is used in limited circumstances 24.16.35.160 (talk) 02:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Algeria

This article says capital punishment was abolished in Algeria in November of 2010, which hasn't happened yet. Anyone clear this up? Czolgolz (talk) 03:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Myanmar

The only capital crime in Myanmar is high treason. It is eventually not a ordinary crime. Thus the status of Myanmar is "abolitionist in ordinary crime"Cristiano Toàn (talk) 09:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC).

Mongolia

I have updated Mongolia from red to orange as it has a current moratorium on capital punishment. Hands Off Cain has re-categorized it also. Wllmevans (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Map Inconsistencies

There are inconsistencies between the map and the main body for Bolivia, Sierra Leone, Lesotho and now Mongolia. I have commented on each in turn on the map discussion page but feel the map is wrong in each case rather than the main article.Wllmevans (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Gabon

On 15 Feb 2011 Hands Off Cain was reporting that Gabon has abolished the death penalty. The President signed the change into law in Feb 2010 but the news was only released yesterday. This needs to be updated. Wllmevans (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Jamaica

I have updated Jamaica from red to orange as no executions have taken place since 1988. Hands off Cain supports this change of status. Wllmevans (talk) 19:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Guatemala

I have updated Guatemala from red to orange as no executions have taken place since 2000. Hands off Cain currently records Guatemala as having a moratorium on capital punishment. Wllmevans (talk) 19:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Updated Article Lead in Summary Totals

I have updated these to reflect the position of each state within the body of the article. The figures I replaced were taken from an Amnesty International summary that is from 2009 and is now very out of date - why Amnesty haven`t got around to updating this is anyones guess. Hands off Cain have a more up to date global summary which is current to June 2010 - but this Wikipedia page need not be constrained by this - we can update as information comes in and be the most up to date reference - which is after all what Wikipedia should strive to be. Also I have clarified which states we are counting - ie the 193 UN members or Observers (to latter to catch the Vatican). For some reason Amnesty in their summary figures include two non-independent territories (Cook Is & Niue - but ignore countless others) and two non-UN limited recognition states (Taiwan & Palestine but ignore the other 8 such states). Hands Off Cain in their figures also count a couple of non-independent Territories (Bermuda & Cook Is) and two non-UN limited recognition states (Taiwan & Palestine). So each are counting a sligtly different 197 'states'. Neither organisation`s scope is particularly logical or consistent - so please keep this in mind when comparing this pages figures with any new updated figures from Amnesty or Hands Off Cain. At least Wikipedia can be consistent and logical in terms of what state entities our summary figures cover. We could of course add an additional summary outlining the position of the 10 Non-UN Limited Recognition States - but logically we should include all of them not just two - most of them are already in the body of the article anyway. I do not think this page should concern itself too deeply with non-state territories which are probably best dealt with in articles covering capital punishment within specific countries. Anyway grateful for any comments or thoughts. Wllmevans (talk) 23:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Table Suggestions

Does anyone else feel the table would be more useful as a single unit instead of separate tables for each continent? One mass table could include a "Continent" column, in case readers wanted to view the information organized in such a manner...

Does anyone else feel that the "Freedom Status" column is irrelevant to the subject of this article? The only purpose that I can see is to draw a POV correlation between a country's "Freedom Status" and its use or abolition of capital punishment. The "Freedom Status" is a completely different unrelated subject....

Useful additions to the table might include (for countries who maintain the death sentences) number of executions in the past year, and in the current year; and the same numbers expressed as a percentage or a per cent mille of that country's total population. For example, China and the USA are at the top of the list. But they also have the world's largest and third largest populations respectively.

Lastly (apart from the tables), I suggest that citing a very politically motivated and biased organization such as Amnesty International in the article's first paragraph paragraph creates an unbalanced POV in the article. Should the article to be centered on by-country use of capital punishment, or should it be based on opposition to the death penalty? I would suggest the former.

What say the masses? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacarids (talk • contribs) 21:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Comments on the Table Suggestions above.

1. Merge all the Tables. DISAGREE. I like geographical split - there do seem to be a very distinct regional attitudes towards capital punishment, and to be able to view the data in regional tables allows flexible and discreet comparison with regional neighbours, as well as allowing regional analysis/commentary before each table. It would be more unwieldy on one huge table. Having said this I think there are too many tables and would like to see North & South America merged into a unified Americas table. And Asia and Oceana merged into an Asia-Pacific table.

2. Remove Freedom Status. DISAGREE. This column provides factual information on the nature of the governments in each country and at the very least can answer the often asked question about which democracies (free coutries) still practice the death penalty. I do not think it completely unconnected - a wide ranging freedom index based on political and civil rights is at least in the same ball-park as the specific human rights issue of capital punishment. There does in any case seem to be a correlation between freedom within countries and the likelihood of countries practicing the death penalty - whether there is a causal link is another question. But I do feel that including this data is more factual than POV. There is no commentary within the article about this so readers can make up there own minds.

3. Useful Additions - AGREE. I like your three suggested new columns - number of executions in the in the current year; number of executions in the previous year; and number of executions per population. Space might be a issue but definately worth looking into.

4. Removing Opening Amnesty International Reference - AGREE. Amnesty International perhaps should not be in the opening line as it could give the impression that the article is unbalanced - which in general I do not think is the case. Perhaps a more neutral phraseology could be used along the lines of 'State usage of Capital Punishment is usually broken into the four categories set out below' I assume your suggestion is not to jetison the rather useful and widely used four category system - which I would certainly not support.

I would be interested to know what other feel on these topics too..........62.25.109.197 (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Remove Freedom Status - have to agree it is very distracting in the table doesnt appear to be relevant to the subject and is clearly not a Neutral POV. MilborneOne (talk) 16:14, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

There are some serious issues with this Executed per capita table:

  • The population count is sometimes multiplied by the number of years, sometimes sums of individual year's numbers and at least in the case of PR China is simply put the current one (1/6 of the analogous estimate for other countries on the list). Is there any consensus on how this is supposed to be?
  • The data for Total executed column: isn't it better referenced with the font (spreadsheet) the newspaper gives, rather than the newspaper itself? Pqnlrn (talk) 20:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Running total

The running total implies that 24+2=27, at one point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.71.46 (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2011 (UTC) This is in the paragraph entitled "Abolition Chronology". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.71.46 (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC) 

Row for year 1980 missing entirely. I have corrected this. Thank you for pointing it out! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 (talk) 09:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Jersey

Just a quick note - Jersey is a Crown Dependency and is not part of the United Kingdom. The UK abolished the death penalty for all remaining offences in 1998 by an ammendment to the Human Rights Bill that removed such punishment from millitary law. 129.11.77.198 (talk) 17:20, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

This article does not at present contain seperate entries for non-independent, non-UN status entities such as colonies, autonomous regions, or crown dependencies. In Jersey`s case you are right to state that it is not a part of the UK - but it is not an independent state and ultimate responsibility for its laws rests with the British Crown. A case could be made for including non-state entities, but it should be agreed through this discussion forum before any changes are made. It should also be applied consistently - Jersey is not a special case, there are perhaps dozens of similar entities in the world. Tackling the thorny issue of how to define which should and should not be included is part of the reason why they are not in the article in the first place. All the statistics in this article use the 'UN status' benchmark for inclusion which at least has the advantage of being straightforward and consistent and I for one think should remain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.137.36.230 (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Method of application

I suggest we put also the method of application of the death penalty for each country. - Eduardo Sellan III (talk) 19:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Independent Nations

I noticed three de facto independent but internationally unrecognized nations in the list, namely Northern Cyprus, Abkhazia and Nagorno-Karabakh. I believe they should be treated differently, as "None since independence" phrase does not hold well for them. 212.156.122.30 (talk) 02:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Those cases alone should rather state "None since declared independence", so as to put them in the proper context. As well, the map would need to be updated soon, as some had changed statuses below. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 06:02, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Britain

Neither Jersey nor Bermuda are part of the UK. Overseas territories don't count and it's misleading. If they're to be included give them their own entities. The last execution in the UK was in 1964 and the year of (total) abolition was 1998! 62.252.24.130 (talk) 12:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Libya

The section about Libya is outdated since they had a constitution change, so it shouldn't have the red colour until the retention or abolition of the death penalty is announced by the National Transitional Council — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjl87 (talk • contribs) 12:12, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Why 4 categories?

I get the distinction between military and civil use, but I can't understand why "hasn't been used in 10 years" is relevant. Except as a political tactic to paint the death penalty as aberrant. For example, if Nauru uses the death penalty at US per capita rates, it would only execute once every 100 years, statistically. And that's exactly what the separate "10 year" category does, is shuffle the small users into a separate category to make use appear rarer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.24.66 (talk) 03:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The anti-death penalty side want to promote a narrative that abolishment is a historical inevitability. So rather than using more neutral practicing, non-practicing, and moratorium countrie, they use retentionist, abolishonost, and abolitionist in practice. Then few supposedly abolishonist-in-practice countries did revert to "retentionist", which is rather linguistically inconvenient because these countries should have be described as retentionist instead during abolitionist-in-practice period. To save this precious anti death penalty narrative, they decided to split "abolitionist in practice for sure" and "abolitionist in practicr, maybe" categories.

This would also fall apart when even one country in "abolitionist-in-practice for sure" would end moratorium. Also, if one single abolitionist country revert using death penalty then the entire narrative would fall apart. This Wikipedia article is political article so it get usual mix of biases. Vapour (talk) 20:18, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Alaska

It is ironic that one of the largest red areas of this map is a part of the United States (the State of Alaska) that abolished the death penalty decades ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.44.157 (talk) 06:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Issues

The article, although escaping tags, has a serious POV and/or OR slant, as well as outdated information. I have read the talk comments but at this point can only speculate if it is, or is not, because of Amnesty International information.

  • 7 (4%) retain it for crimes committed in exceptional circumstances (such as in time of war). This may be worded to look better or some other reasons but "in time of war" can mean a Constitution is suspended so can nullify this anyway. If the source uses this then at least it should be referenced or taken out as OR.
  • 48 (25%) permit its use for ordinary crimes, but have not used it for at least 10 years and are believed to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions, or it is under a moratorium. A [who?] tag could be inserted after "and are believed", which as is, is plain old speculation.

"If" a country has the death penalty, and there is no current moratorium, then de facto abolitionist states by not having carried out executions for ten years, only serves to make it look better for Amnesty International or those against the death penalty. De facto is that it hasn't thus far happened but de facto is that it could any day if it is "still on the books" or as stated, there is no moratorium.

  • According to the article math; 97 (50%) have abolished it, 97 (50%) have not abolished it. There is an undetermined number of countries that may or may not have a moratorium. Algeria is listed as "currently under a moratorium", but the next line states. "A project of abolition is being tabled in Parliament in Algeria by Louisa Hanoune and Ahmed Ouyahia since the summer of 2008.", that is a little out of date since I am sure the summer of 2008 has past.
  • There is a big nice colored table listed under the section "Abolition chronology" that serves what purpose? A running total and how many in a specific year! This could be incorporated into the tables above it "if" a running total or how many countries in a certain year are deemed necessary for inclusion.
  • There are a host of bare URL's that I will tend to when I can. Otr500 (talk) 00:51, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

ROC

I noticed that the ROC (on Taiwan) was removed from the tables, presumably as a "limited recognition state." This approach has some severe issues, because if we apply the same criteria the mainland Chinese authority, the DPRK, and the ROK should also be removed.

This doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Kiralexis (talk) 17:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Color bias in capital punishment chart?

I noticed that the colors used to mark countries that have abolished capital punishment are blue or green (positive colors), while the colors used to mark countries which still actively use capital punishment are orange and red (negative colors). Doesn't this subtly imply a bias against capital punishment, something which violates Wikipedia's neutral POV guideline? 2602:306:250B:7679:1570:49A1:9E77:8FE9 (talk) 09:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I see it as just a color coded way to tell countries apart from each others in their stand on the subject. If one thinks it should be changed to a more "neutral" coloring scheme, so be it but then so to would the map need to change to make it match. Many I'm sure don't see it as a big problem & so it has been for many years, but if others have suggestions or willing to do the task, then have a try at it.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 20:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit problem

For some reason, someone has the notion that if a country had signed on or became a party to the Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, that the country automatically becomes abolitionist and thus edit to reflect it so. That is technically not true, since the protocol is for aiming to abolish capital punishment, thus making that said country be under a promise or moratorium until it makes laws to effectively abolish it partially (as used only in time of war) or completely. So until those countries that recently did sign/join the protocol made the changes internally, the changes done here should remain as they were. I (or another that sees this as being correct) will revert them back in a few days unless someone can show this as being wrong.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 21:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Germany

I have edited the entry for Germany to be consistent with the rest of the table - for examples of treating successor states, see the West and South Slavic states. A new constitution and a new state -> a new date. It made Germans look better compared to others, not just Slavs. If you think of reunification as GDR territory joining the German state, then you can push the abolishment as far as 1949, but then you will get a strange fact that there were exectutions after that, the last in 1981. Muflon 83 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Current Germany is not a successor state of GDR (that country ceased to exist in 1990 without a legal successor). The current Germany has been the same country since 1949 (no succession occurred in 1990 nor in 1957 (Saarland)) and in 1990 simple enlarged its territory by absorbing the territory of then already legally dissolved GDR and also the territory of Berlin (the whole city was until that point under legal occupation by the US, France, the UK and the Soviet Union and was not legally part of either Germany nor GDR). Therefore GDR should not be mentioned in the chronological table at all (Tuscany and other historical countries without legal successors are not there either and neither is Saarland). None of this should be up to a debate here because that issue has been solved since before the reunification even happened by legally binding international treaties (2+4 treaty of Moscow etc), Basic Law of Germany, other legal sources etc. And there are Wikipedia articles relating to this issue (for example the article about the reunification itself) that leave no doubt.92.63.48.182 (talk) 04:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Seems pretty pointless to even have the "Capital Punishment in Ecuador" Wiki page, and definitely no need to link to it. The entire page is like 2 sentences, written by someone who doesn't appear to speak English as their first language. It simply says something to the effect of "There is no death penalty in Ecuador, due to the Constitutional language." Not very helpful, and doesn't expand on the info the viewer can see on this page. Jus' sayin... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.128.79 (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. I've redirected the page here for now. DoctorKubla (talk) 06:55, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Portugal never reinstated full death penalty!

Where a country has abolished, re-instated, and abolished again (e.g. Philippines, Switzerland, Portugal) only the later abolition date is included.

This is ridiculous and a phantasy, Portugal never re-instated full death penalty and abolished it again. Death penalty for political crimes was abolished in 1852, civilian crimes were abolished in 1867 and they were never reintroduced in any future Constitution. The 1911 Constitution abolished all kinds of death penalties in article 22º (that is, the remaining death penalty for military crimes is abolished while all the others are confirmed).

Yes, i'm aware that the military death penalty for high treason was reinstated in 1916, during the special time period of the First World War, but only for that reason, not for civilian or political crimes. The amendment of September 1916 clearly says that the death penalty can never be re-established in any case, with the exception of a war against a foreign country and only if it is indispensable, and only in the theatre of war.

This exception was maintained in the following Constitution of 1933 and abolished in 1974. Actually, and as far as i know, was only applied once in 1917 and there is no full evidence of it. Besides that, the last time Portugal fought wars against a foreign country was in the First World War (well, Colonial Wars are different types of war)!

Full death penalty has been illegal in Portugal since 1852.

This is trying to cover up that fact that and i think it should be changed because it's a huge mistake. Yes, Portugal is tiny and all, but like i said above, this is ridiculous --Good Hope Phanta (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Column header for table in 'Abolition chronology' is not simply accurate but unutterably confusing for the readers. My edit to rectify was reverted without explanation by Kutsuit. Can you explain why do you think this column header shall not be better worded than "per year"! --» nafSadh did say 05:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's pretty self-explanatory. I changed it a little bit. Does it make more sense now? --Kutsuit (talk) 11:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
It was not self-explanatory, as it took more than a while to understand what the header meant. It is better now; though consider using, "Countries that year" or "Number of countries" or "Country count" which might make more sense. Note that, the word 'per' often relates to average. --» nafSadh did say 01:11, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Dependencies

"Wikipedia:Country - A country is a region identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics."

Since dependencies are countries, they should be included in this chart, especially where the criminal code is different from the mother country. Otherwise he list is incomplete and deceptive. I will undo the deletions and revert the page in a few days, unles someone can come up with a good reason not to. 24.108.58.1 (talk) 18:45, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

United Kingdom

From what I gather in the United Kingdom Capital punishment was effectively abolished in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) in 1965 and Northern Ireland in 1973 which was makes the date the United Kingdom abolished capital punishment for ordinary crimes 1973. The final date the last crimes were removed from the book was 1998 which is the year the United Kingdom fully abolished capital punishment. C. 22468 Talk to me 02:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Major Numerical Error

Please note that the table under "Executed per Capita" seems to say that the US population is much larger than China. Perhaps someone who knows the right numbers can fix this. (There are several similar errors.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.246.216.28 (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Yep some of these numbers are clearly wrong. Nearly 1 billion people in Bangladesh? More people in Indonesia than China? How did it get to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezrado (talk • contribs) 22:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
It also states that there are over 444,000,000 people in Iran. This chart needs revision: the numbers are clearly way off the mark, and it should also incorporate additional sources.64.222.111.148 (talk) 05:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

In the table of executions by country by year, China is listed with: China Execution: 1,000+ Executions / million people: 0.402 This seems to imply that there are ~2500000000 people in China?

I fixed the last issue, the rest seems to have been fixed too. Gap9551 (talk) 21:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Why is Russia in the Europe section?

Why? ScienceApe (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Abolitions in 2003, 2011, 2013, 2014?

I am starting to question the accuracy of this article. I believe it should be a redirect to a more accurate page about which country has the death penalty & which ones do not. Maybe an Amnesty International page or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:8C00:EE:8BD:566E:7E1C:64E (talk) 05:15, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Chad

Chad only has the death penalty for terrorism, ie war crimes, thus it should be coloured green. 24.108.58.49 (talk) 00:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Guinea abolished the death penalty

Could someone update the article and map?

Sources: https://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/guinea-new-criminal-code-drops-death-penalty-but-fails-to-tackle-impunity-and-keeps-repressive-provi https://deathpenaltynews.blogspot.ca/2016/07/guinea-new-criminal-code-drops-death.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.117.128 (talk) 10:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Also update the map for the Republic of the Congo and Nauru.

Sources: http://www.worldcoalition.org/Congos-Presidential-Election-Strengthens-the-Controversial-New-Constitution-that-Abolished-Capital-Punishment.html http://www.ambafrance-fj.org/Nauru-updates-its-Criminal-Code-abolishes-Death-Penalty-and-Decriminalize — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.118.166 (talk) 22:32, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Map

Someone deleted the map on the commons page, and a bot came by and cleaned up the entire section. If anyone has the same map, could you please reupload it, and, if possible, also edit it to have the changes to reflect Congo, Nauru, and Guinea abolishing capital punishment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.37.172 (talk) 24:44, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Ya it turned a lot of nations that abolished it back to orange like Mongolia and a lot that havent used it for 10 years back to red. i have a map but its a microsoft paint version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bleach143 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Map Update

Thank you to whoever replaced the map. Kiribati and Guinea also need to be changed to blue, as they have both abolished capital punishment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.37.172 (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Kiribati as well as the Northern Mariana Islands still need to be changed to blue — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyNickNorse (talk • contribs) 13:21, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Zoophilia and same sex intercourse

Do we really need these ridiculously huge charts detailing that no one has been recently executed for the former and less than half a dozen for the later? Those two charts are longer than the rest of the article. Czolgolz (talk) 19:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Mongolia abolished the death penalty

Could someone update the article and map?

Sources: http://www.worldcoalition.org/ADPAN-welcomes-Mongolias-decision-abolish-death-penalty-in-law.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.117.128 (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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