Talk:Bartolomea Acciaioli/GA1

GA review

Passed. Amir Ghandi (talk) 09:16, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 03:20, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Amir Ghandi (talk · contribs) 16:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

A relatively short article, but of high quality, as it already meets many of the criteria. My comments therefore will be mostly nitpicks.

Images

Understandably, the article doesn't have many images
The image of the map is properly sourced and licensed, provided with an Alt text and uses upright

Sources

Earwig gives an 8.3% chance of copyright violation, which means it is unlikely
How are Lock (1995) and Zečević (2014) reliable? (I say this as someone who is not familiar with this historical period and it's scholars; the other sources are of high quality due to their publishers)
Lock is Professor of History at York St John University, Routledge is a leading publisher of academic studies, with several series of historical subects. Zečević teaches medieval history at the University of Eastern Sarajevo. Borsoka (talk) 04:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is broad in its coverage and uses every source possible.

Spot Check

Please provide the texts for the following sentences:

The Byzantine historian, Laonikos Chalkokondyles recorded that she was "said to be the most beautiful of all the women who at that time were renowned for their beauty"
- "Little is known about the Despoina Bartolomea, apart from her beauty." (Runciman); "Bartolomea, said by Laonicus Chalcocondylas to have surprassed in beauty all the women of her time [quote in Greek]" (Setton - I fixed the page)
He disinherited Bartolomea by distributing his properties between his younger daughter, Francesca, his illegitimate son, Antonio, and the church of Saint Mary of Athens (the Parthenon)
- "...Nerio died at Athens. In his will he left the city to the Church of the Holy Virgin there, the building that we call the Parthenon. To his illegitimate son Antonio he bequeathed the city of Thebes ... All his other possessions ... were allotted to his older daughter, Francesca... To his elder daughter, Bartolomea ... he left only the sum of 9,700 ducats, a sum which her husband had borrowed from him..." (Runciman)
Her husband survived her, but suffered from severe depression till the end of his life. He died in 1407.
- "He was now a sick man. His wife seems to have died about this time...In 1407, when his end was approachin, he took monastic orders, and died a few days later. ... He seems to have been a devoted husband; and it may be that the Despoena's death was largely responsible for his later melancholy." Borsoka (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

They released him only after he promised to persuade Theodore to cede Argos to the Venetians, but Theodore I was unwilling to accept his father-in-law's advice, although the Venetians could hold Nerio's town, Megara, until they received Argos from Theodore 1. Why the word 'advice'? It looks more like a persuasion 2. The sentences starting from the word 'although' do not relate with the previous sentences, also seem to be redundant. My suggestion would be to delete them.
- Rephrased the sentence ([1])
  - Borsoka In Nerio's article it is stated that the Venetian actually took Megara. If we change the word hold to 'occupy' the sentence could become a lot clearer.
    The cited sources say: "In 1391 Nerio was released, on promising to let the Venetians hold his city of Megara till they should have Argos." (Runciman) "The Venetians, it was agreed, were to hold Megara until they acquired Argos." (Fine) I rephrased the sentence ([2]) Borsoka (talk) 01:51, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
, and they wanted I would change 'wanted' to 'sought'.
- I choose alternative wording ([3])
Eventually, Francesca's husband, Carlo I Tocco, realised that he was unable to keep Corinth on the long run Why?
- Rephrased the sentence to make it clear ([4]).

Thank you for picking the article for review. I think I addressed all issues you raised above. Please indicate if any further action is needed. Borsoka (talk) 04:52, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work, @Borsoka. I will promote this article now. Amir Ghandi (talk) 09:14, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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