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202.174.136.212 07:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)Please delete Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir202.174.136.212 07:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thecriticisms are widely partial. So more radical criticisms should be attached. I am changing a bit. -- Hermitage17 12:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Improve this article by providing reliable sources

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This article can be improved by adding information on the organization's activities. References should also need to be added with every information provided. Nirbochon (talk) 03:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Also supply information with neutral perspective. Do not write positive or negative without evidence.[reply]

Shibir activity in Universities

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There should be more details on the terrorist/violent activities as well as encroachment upon basic human rights like free speach Shibir has orchastrated in various Universities in Bangladesh in the 1980s and 90s including Chittagong University, Rajshahi University and Jahangirnagar University. If I'm not mistaken, they have been banned from open activity at jahangirnagar University since the late 1980s/early 90s due to the killings of numerous students in an attempt to gain control of the University student halls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.56.33.2 (talk) 13:08, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it doesn't even cite any sources. Does it?--Tarif from Bangladesh 17:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the talk of user: 130.56.33.2. This artile shoule be removed. My logic is that there are few other student organizations in Bangladesh as Bangladesh Jatiyatabadi Dal, Bangladesh Student League. And If i am not mistaken there is no article for the other student organization. Then why WP agree to put it here. Either delete the article or place all other main student organizations profile in WP. Thanks. --Sushantaa 15:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Shibir is the only student organization which care about charecter.

Shibir is the only organization where no single rapist could be found. Shibir is the only organization which urges its members to be a good student. Shibir is the only organization where no terrorist could be found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.0.8.12 (talk) 05:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide reliable sources for your claims. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 14:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@121.0.8.12 Ok, You are allowed to express your opinion. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 12:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tag Removal

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In this article lots of tags are listed at the beginning without any discussion at talk page. I think most of the problems are already resolved. If anyone has any doubt about this, please express your concern in this thread. Otherwise I will remove the tags tomorrow. Thanks. --FreemesM (talk) 01:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No points raised in support of these tags. So I am removing them. If someone can show valid points, he can bring those tags again.--FreemesM (talk) 06:30, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article contains many unreliable sources.

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This article contains many unreliable sources. In bangladesh Shibir are well known as good student. Only few people and a political party think that they are terrorists. If shibir has too many weaponry, so why the members of this party are being killed. Why they don't use their weaponry. Verily Shibir does not have anything. Actually the violent student's political organisation is Bangladesh Chhatra League, although now all sources about it were cancelled. Ermejoso (talk) 19:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All references used in this article are reliable secondary sources. Moreover this is not a forum or such place of debate where you compare an organisation with other. If you know any information good or bad about the topic of the article than you can add them in the article from a neutral point of view with proper reliable references. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 02:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Issue of NPOV

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The point of view of this article cannot be considered neutral, taking into view that this page has being heavily edited to demonize the organisation. There is a lack of verifiable information, including history, the organogram, the activities which may be socio-political (not just that of terrorism), presidents of shibir, etc and the other technical details which would provide a fairer and more accurate picture.

Mohammad Hossain 10:56, 17 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husain007 (talk • contribs)

If you have information with proper references about the topics you mentioned above, please add those to the article to make it neutral. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 04:55, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I intend to in the coming days and months. Thank you for your advice. Mohammad Hossain 19:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husain007 (talk • contribs)


Requested move 11 September 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Closing as no consensus. Oppose !vote not countered (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 00:05, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir → Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir – The name of this page does not properly match with the actual name "Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir". Robiaid (talk) 03:20, 11 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Although their official site seems to use the proposed name,[1] plenty of other sources cited in the article do not.[2][3] I'd like to see a better explained rationale for this move, than simply "it does not match with the actual name". We do not automatically pick the WP:OFFICIALNAME for something, we must go with the WP:COMMONNAME as found in reliable sources. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 22:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Do not add fake information

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Shibir is not a student wing of any political party of Bangladesh. It can be easily justified by their constitution. But without adding any source, repeatedly writing/mentioning it as a student wing of Jamaat is not acceptable.Rahatadnan17 (talk) 05:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC) Rahat[reply]

Protection

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Can someone request this page to be protected in Wikipedia:Requests for page protection? BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 12:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move this Article on the correct name of the organization

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The correct name of this organization is Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir.

Official name: Chhatrashibir (not Chhatra Shibir)

See this website and en web and one news There are also numerous news sources with the organization's official name. Dv24mail (talk) 12:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 April 2025

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Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir → Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir – :I actually want to transfer the article of Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir to their official name.

The correct name of this organization is Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir.
Official name: Chhatrashibir (not Chhatra Shibir)
See this website and en web and one news There are also numerous news sources with the organization's official name. Dv24mail (talk) 12:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Traditional name is Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir.[4] Also Chhatra (ছাত্র) and Shibir (শিবির) are different words in Bengali language. Somajyoti ✉ 16:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We are talking about English official name, not the Bengali. Even they also use and write Chātrô & Śibir jointly as Chātrôśibir in Bengali. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reason is Jamaat Ameer: Islami Chhatra Shibir is closest to students, Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS) , South Asia Terrorism Portal, Zahidul Islam elected president of Chhatra Shibir, Nurul Islam new secretary general | The Daily Star, Jamaat’s Islami Chhatra Shibir was once ranked third most active non-state armed group - The Economic Times, Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS) , South Asia Terrorism Portal. Somajyoti ✉ 18:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
you are right Dv24mail (talk) 07:59, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If Chhatra and Shibir are different words, then by what logic is Chhatra and Dal the same word? Dv24mail (talk) 21:20, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there's a mistake in another article, then that mistake needs to be corrected there. That mistake is not to be repeated here. Somajyoti ✉ 08:22, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have reverted the undiscussed move of Bangladesh Jatiotabadi Chatra Dal, that seems to be a similar case where common name should be used instead of official name. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:26, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Somajyoti and 2016 RM. Also we don't automatically use the WP:OFFICIALNAME so that isn't an argument.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support per nom. I previously moved, but got reverted. Bangladesh Jatiotabadi Chatradal was moved for similar reasons and none opposed, but I wonder why to oppose here. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The official name of the Chhatrashibir is being retained by using grammatically illogical explanations instead of using it. An organization's official name should be Wikipedia. Once upon a time, everyone was wrong in many ways, now it should be transferred to the right name. Dv24mail (talk) 21:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable scholarly sources with a space
  • Ahamed, Emajuddin; Nazneen, D. R. J. A. (1990). "Islam in Bangladesh: Revivalism or Power Politics?". Asian Survey. 30 (8): 795–808. JSTOR 2644499. Jamaat-i-Islam also operates through a number of front organizations such as Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS-Islamic students' center)
  • Burgess, Stephen F. (2009). "Political Islam and Radical Islam: The Cases of Pakistan and Bangladesh". In Kindt, Michael T.; Post, Jerrold M.; Schneider, Barry R. (eds.). The World's Most Threatening Terrorist Networks and Criminal Gangs. Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 978-0-23-061809-1. The party [Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami] also spawned a militanat student wing, Islami Chhatra Shibir
  • Kabir, Nurul (2010). "Intercepting Inter-Personal Communications: Infringing on Democratic Liberties of the Citizens". In Lal, C. K. (ed.). Human rights, democracy and governance. New Delhi: Dorling Kindersley. ISBN 978-8-13-179283-4. Violence remains one of the major means of Jamaat to establish its hegemony over the competing political ideologies, which has frequently been displayed by its student front, Islami Chhatra Shibir
  • Destradi, Sandra (2012). Indian Foreign and Security Policy in South Asia: Regional Power Strategies. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-41-568078-3. The Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS), the youth wing of the Jamaat, has also been allegedly involved in several bomb attacks and targeted assassinations
  • Chalk, Peter (2013). "Jama'at ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB)". Encyclopedia of Terrorism. Santa Barbara, Calif: ABC-CLIO. ISBN 978-0-31-338535-3. A key partner in the new government of Prime Minister Khaleda Zia was Jamaat-e-Islami – the parent organization of Islami Chhatra Shibir, a student wing that also includes many JMB members.
  • Kumar, Satish (2015). India's National Security : Annual Review 2014. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-31-735210-5. The JeI party and its students' wing Islami Chhatra Sangha (later renamed Islami Chhatra Shibir) were involve in Azam's campaign
  • Jahan, Rounaq (2015). Political Parties in Bangladesh. Prothoma Prokashan. ISBN 978-984-90039-3-9. In response the JI activists, particularly members of the Islami Chhatra Shibir, unleashed a wave of unprecedented street violence
  • Thorat, Shrish; Waze, Sachin (2016). The Scout : The Definitive Account of David Headley and the Mumbai Attacks. Bloomsbury. ISBN 978-9-38-543666-6. Islamic Chhatra Shibir (ICS)-is political students organization in Bangladesh
  • Michelutti, Lucia; Hoque, Ashraf; Martin, Nicolas (2019). "The Rookie". Mafia Raj: The Rule of Bosses in South Asia. Stanford University Press. ISBN 978-1-50-360732-3. Islamic Chhatra Shibir (student wing of Jamaat)
  • Allchin, Joseph (2019). Many Rivers, One Sea : Bangladesh and the Challenge of Islamist Militancy. London: Hurst & Company. ISBN 978-1-78-738270-1. Jamaat supporters and cadre, particularly from its student wing, the Islami Chhatra Shibir (commonly known as Shibir)
  • Chodhury, Arnab Roy; Abid, Ahmed (2019). "Emergent Protest Publics in India and Bangladesh: A Comparative Study of Anti-corruption and Shahbag Protests". In Belyaeva, Nina; Albert, Victor; Zaytsev, Dmitry G. (eds.). Protest publics: toward a new concept of mass civic action. Springer. ISBN 978-3-03-005475-5. The central demands were that the government should ban the Jamaat-Shibir (Jamaat-e-Islami, its youth-wing Bangladeshi Islami Chhatra Shibir, and Hefazat-e-Islam)
  • Hossain, Akram; Haque, Mahmudul (2022). "Survival Strategies of Jamaat as a Religion-Based Political Opponent in Bangladesh". Masks of Authoritarianism: Hegemony, Power and Public Life in Bangladesh. Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 978-9-81-164314-9. for Jamaat's student wing, Islami Chhatra Shibir (henceforth Shibir).
  • Kuttig, Julian (2022). "'Another kind of beating'". In Pfaff-Czarnecka, Joanna; Thieme, Susan (eds.). Universities as Transformative Social Spaces: Mobilities and Mobilizations from South Asian Perspectives. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-195618-8. The Islamist Jamaat-e-Islami is another pertinent party maintaining an active student organization called Islami Chhatra Shibir, which has become the arch enemy of AL's student wing, BCL.
  • Chowdhury, Manosh (2025). Making of the Popular: Production of Culture and Discourses in Bangladesh. Wilmington, DE: Vernon Art and Science Inc. ISBN 979-8-88-190227-8. faced a series of clashes with the Islami Chhatra Shibir, the student wing of Jamaat-e-Islami
Reliable scholarly sources without a space
  • Islam, Nazrul; Islam, Saidul (2020). Islam and Democracy in South Asia: The Case of Bangladesh. Springer. ISBN 978-3-03-042909-6. After independence, Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir (BIC) was founded in 1977.
  • Das, Tulshi Kumar; Hoque, Mohammad Jahirul (2024). "Genocide in Sylhet during the Liberation War of Bangladesh". In Bhattacharyya, Rituparna (ed.). Genocides and Xenophobia in South Asia and Beyond: A Transdisciplinary Perspective on Known, Lesser-known and Unknown Crime of Crimes. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-00-320547-0. Islami Chattra Shangha is the predecessor of Bangladesh Islami Chhatrashibir, which is a student wing of Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami
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