Talk:Bad Reichenhall shooting

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On 7 February 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Martin Peyerl to Bad Reichenhall shooting. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 7 February 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Celia Homeford (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Peyerl → Bad Reichenhall shooting – The shooting is much more significant than its perpetrator. Existing German and Polish wikipedia articles are titled "Bad Reichenhall shooting". Articles about Peyerl's killings focus more on the shooting than Peyerl as an individual. Nearly all of them refer to the shooting in Bad Reichenhall, not the mass murderer Martin Peyerl.

See Amok by Bannenberg in 2010, Amok und andere Formen schwerer Gewalt by Hoffmann and Roshdi in 2018, and Amoklauf und School Shooting by Scheithauer and Bondü in 2011 for references to "Bad Reichenhall shooting" rather than Martin Peyerl as the main subject.

Compare Mark O. Barton to 1999 Atlanta day trading firm shootings move for similar reasoning. Rubintyrann (talk) 00:25, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, though I don't exactly agree with the reasoning. Very 1-event type of crime. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of curiosity, why disagree? I'm mostly just referring to how wikipedia usually makes pages about crimes rather than the perpetrators the vast majority of times. The standard I've seen are 2016 Munich shooting instead of David Ali Sonboly, Luby's shooting instead of George Hennard, Dunblane massacre instead of Thomas Hamilton. I get exceptions with cases where perpetrators are particularly notorious or notable for later influence in pop culture or copycat crime, with stand alone articles like Howard Unruh or John List, or separate pages like with the perpetrators of the Columbine shooting or 2014 Isla Vista killings, but Peyerl is by no means more or even equally well-known when compared to the Bad Reichenhall shooting itself. Rubintyrann (talk) 13:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is clearer and I agree with it when you say it that way, my main concern was with comparisons when there are a lot of specific considerations for each individual article (but none seemed present here, hence why I voted support anyway). This is just a particularly finnicky topic area and so I think it is best to be precise or you get awkward requested moves or AfDs. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.