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Contentious claims on lead

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I recently removed the following: " AIER has a history of promoting climate change denial. During the COVID-19 pandemic, AIER promoted a herd immunity strategy in the Great Barrington Declaration, which was condemned by many public health experts but influenced some policies in the United States and United Kingdom."

This content, while mixed with varying degrees of fact, cannot be written in wiki-WP:VOICE. Additionally, it is WP:UNDUE for the lead, and should be re-written significantly or addressed with some detail and attribution in the body. Furthermore, now that this talk page discussion has been initiated, no content should be restored until the talk page discussion here is settled with a consensus for inclusion of any similar content per WP:ONUS, "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." Iljhgtn (talk) 22:05, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These are not "contentious claims". These are not undue, but main subjects of AIER operations. The onus for removal of long time consensus is your, as well explained in last summary. Ixocactus (talk) 22:46, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I'm a fan of wp:onus, but it says the opposite of what you are saying, that the onus is on the the person seeking to put the material (back) in. North8000 (talk) 16:20, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus to include what is pretty much the only third-party content from the article doesn't just disappear every single month. Alpha3031 (tc) 07:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest keeping that stuff out. First, climate change denial means denying the main well accepted tenets of climate change. The sources don't establish that. Second, every such thing has people / "sources" who are political opponents and cherrypicking and platforming those comments is a bad thing to do in an article. Better to be informative rather that trying to find a way to put in vague negative epitaphs. North8000 (talk) 16:27, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]