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History The American Catholic Historical Association (ACHA) was founded in December 1919 by a group of historians led by Monsignor Peter Keenan Guilday in Cleveland, Ohio (encyclopedia.com). Its creation filled a void at the national level: at the time, several diocesan Catholic historical societies existed (in New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, St. Paul, etc.), but these were local and amateur in focus (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The American Catholic Historical Association,The founders were advised and). Guilday and his colleagues envisioned a professional society devoted to the universal history of the Catholic Church, one that could engage on equal footing with secular and Protestant historians (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The American Catholic Historical Association,The founders were advised and). The founders received guidance and encouragement from J. Franklin Jameson, a former president of the American Historical Association (AHA), and the new organization became an affiliated society of the AHA from its inception (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=secular and Protestant history had,C). The ACHA was incorporated under the laws of the District of Columbia and was soon officially recognized by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=secular and Protestant history had,C). Initially, the Association established its headquarters at The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C., reflecting the early support of Catholic academic institutions (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=encouraged by J,C). (Guilday himself was a faculty member at Catholic University.) The ACHA held its first general meeting in late 1919, and Dr. Lawrence F. Flick – a physician, historian, and co-founder – was elected as the Association’s first president in 1920 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Flick#:~:text=He was one of the,one of his greatest honors). In subsequent years, leadership roles rotated among prominent Catholic intellectuals and even some non-Catholic scholars, underscoring the inclusive vision of the founders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=of Catholic universities, colleges, and,There are approximately 1,100 members). For example, historian James J. Walsh succeeded Flick as president in 1921, and in 1924 Gaillard Hunt (a non-Catholic historian) served as president, illustrating the ACHA’s openness to scholars of various backgrounds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=of Catholic universities, colleges, and,There are approximately 1,100 members). Throughout the 20th century, the ACHA expanded in size and scope. It quickly became customary for the ACHA to hold its annual meeting in conjunction with the larger American Historical Association conference each January – a tradition that began in the 1920s and continues to this day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=The ACHA holds a general,Commission of the 44). These joint meetings, hosted in a different city each year, provided ACHA members an opportunity to present research and network alongside the wider community of historians. In 1972, the Association introduced an additional Spring Meeting, a smaller two-day conference held at rotating academic institutions (such as Catholic colleges or seminaries) each year (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association holds an annual,day meeting each spring). This allowed for more focused regional gatherings in addition to the national meeting. The ACHA also forged links with kindred scholarly organizations; notably, it often coordinates with the American Society of Church History for conferences and projects (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association holds an annual,day meeting each spring). In its early decades, the Association benefited from the leadership of distinguished Catholic historians. Monsignor John Tracy Ellis, a prominent church historian, served as executive secretary-treasurer mid-century and was editor of the Catholic Historical Review; he was instrumental in professionalizing the field. Upon Msgr. Ellis’s retirement in 1961, Msgr. Robert F. Trisco took over as executive secretary and served in that capacity for an exceptionally long term (1961–2006), providing administrative continuity for nearly half a century (https://achahistory.org/2019/03/13/monsignor-robert-trisco-receives-acha-centennial-award/#:~:text=For almost half of the,again during 2007 to 2009). Under Trisco’s stewardship, the ACHA’s membership grew steadily – he reported about 915 members by the time of his retirement in 2009 (https://achahistory.org/2019/03/13/monsignor-robert-trisco-receives-acha-centennial-award/#:~:text=As secretary, he carried out,the annual meetings by recommending). By 2019, the Association proudly celebrated its centennial, marking 100 years of scholarship. In the 21st century, the ACHA’s administrative base shifted first to Fordham University in New York (2011-2018) and since 2018 to Mount St. Mary’s University in Emmitsburg, Maryland, which now hosts the Association’s offices (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=officio),University, the ACHA’s host institution, https://achahistory.org/nyc2025/)). Despite changes over time, the ACHA has remained faithful to its founding ideals while adapting to new scholarly trends and a more diverse membership. Mission and Purpose The mission of the American Catholic Historical Association is to promote scholarly study of the history of Catholicism in all its facets and to advance historical research in the field (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=From its inception the association,as nonprofessional supporters and students). From its inception, the Association has pursued two main objectives: (1) to foster a deeper and more widespread knowledge of the history of the Catholic Church – broadly construed to include the Church’s internal developments, its interactions with civil governments, and the influence of Catholics on intellectual, cultural, political, and social movements – and (2) to elevate the standards of historical scholarship among its members in all areas (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=From its inception the association,as nonprofessional supporters and students). In keeping with these goals, the ACHA has always been inclusive. Membership is open to anyone interested in Catholic history, including professional historians (academic or ecclesiastical), archivists, teachers, clergy, as well as non-professional enthusiasts and students (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=on the intellectual, cultural, political,,as nonprofessional supporters and students). Notably, the Association from early on welcomed non-Catholics into its ranks and has even elected many non-Catholic scholars to serve on its committees and as Association president (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=of Catholic universities, colleges, and,There are approximately 1,100 members). This openness reflects the ACHA’s commitment to broad scholarly dialogue beyond confessional lines. The Association also enjoys strong relationships with Catholic educational institutions and has sought to serve the needs of Catholic colleges, universities, and seminaries by supporting their teachers and students (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=and more widespread knowledge of,There are approximately 1,100). In summary, the ACHA’s purpose is both to deepen understanding of Catholic heritage and to integrate Catholic historical scholarship into the mainstream of academic history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=bring together scholars interested in,There are approximately 1,100 members). Publications The Catholic Historical Review (CHR) is the official scholarly journal of the American Catholic Historical Association. Founded in 1915 (several years before the ACHA’s establishment) by Catholic University of America, the Catholic Historical Review was adopted as the Association’s official organ upon the ACHA’s founding in 1919 (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association adopted as its,association launched the editing of). The journal is a quarterly publication, published by the Catholic University of America Press, and it quickly became – and remains – the premier academic journal for Catholic history in the United States. The CHR features peer-reviewed research articles, book reviews, and editorial notes covering the history of the Catholic Church and Catholics around the world. It also serves as a record of ACHA affairs: traditionally, the annual presidential address to the Association, reports of the secretary-treasurer and various committees, and other official ACHA news are published in the Review (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association adopted as its,association launched the editing of). This close relationship ensures that the CHR not only advances scholarship but also documents the Association’s ongoing activities. Over the decades, many landmark studies in ecclesiastical and religious history have appeared in the Catholic Historical Review, contributing significantly to the development of the field. In addition to its journal, the ACHA produces other publications. It circulates a quarterly newsletter to members, providing updates on Association business, member news, and announcements of conferences or grants (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=the “Hidden Catholic Collections” blog,,active on social media platforms). In the 1970s, the Association undertook a major editorial project in collaboration with Catholic University: the compilation and publication of the papers of Archbishop John Carroll, the first Catholic bishop in the United States. These historical documents were edited under ACHA auspices and published in three volumes in 1976 (timed to coincide with the U.S. Bicentennial), reflecting the Association’s commitment to preserving and disseminating primary sources in American Catholic history (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=Press,of American Independence in 1976). In recent years, the ACHA has also expanded into digital media and online scholarship. For example, it maintains a blog titled “Hidden Catholic Collections,” which highlights rare or little-known Catholic archival collections, and it sponsors the “New Books in Catholic Studies” podcast to discuss recent publications in the field (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=features new developments in the,active on social media platforms). The Association furthermore moderates H-Catholic, an academic email forum on the H-Net network for scholars of Catholic history (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=the “Hidden Catholic Collections” blog,,active on social media platforms). These publications and media initiatives support the ACHA’s mission by engaging a wider audience and fostering scholarly communication beyond the printed page. Conferences and Activities Organizing scholarly gatherings is one of the core activities of the ACHA. The Association holds its Annual Meetingevery January in conjunction with the American Historical Association’s conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=The ACHA holds a general,Commission of the 44). This longstanding arrangement (in place since the ACHA’s early years) allows ACHA members to participate in a large, multidisciplinary history meeting while also hosting dedicated panels and events focusing on Catholic history. The ACHA’s annual meeting typically spans the weekend following New Year’s Day and is hosted in whatever city the AHA is meeting that year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Catholic_Historical_Association#:~:text=The ACHA holds a general,Commission of the 44). At the annual meeting, the ACHA sponsors academic sessions (panels of research papers, roundtables, and lectures) on topics in church history, Catholic education, religious culture, and related areas. The gathering also features the Association’s general business meeting and the meeting of its Executive Council, as well as an awards banquet or ceremony where the year’s prize winners are honored (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=official academic journal of the,proposals to the Executive Council). Social events and networking opportunities, often including a Mass or prayer service, are also part of the tradition, fostering camaraderie among scholars in the field. In addition to the national meeting, the ACHA has, since 1972, organized a Spring Meeting each year (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association holds an annual,day meeting each spring). These spring conferences are usually two-day events hosted by a college, university, or seminary, often in partnership with the Association. Institutions with strong programs in Catholic studies or church history frequently invite the ACHA to hold the spring meeting on their campus. This provides an opportunity for more focused and intimate scholarly exchange on Catholic historical topics, often including thematic sessions or workshops. The spring meeting venue rotates annually and has been hosted in various cities across the United States. For instance, one recent Spring Meeting was scheduled at St. Norbert College in Wisconsin in 2025 (though the Association cancelled that particular conference in response to concerns over faculty cuts at the host institution) (https://achahistory.org/#:~:text=ACHA Urges St,Cuts, Cancels 2025 Spring Conference). Both the annual and spring meetings reflect the ACHA’s commitment to providing forums for presenting new research and for mentoring young scholars. Graduate students and junior faculty are especially encouraged to present papers, and the Association often provides travel grants or subsidized registration to facilitate their participation (https://achahistory.org/about/#:~:text=In addition to academic conferences,,in Catholic Studies” podcast, and). Beyond conferences, the ACHA engages in other scholarly activities. It periodically sponsors lectures, webinars, and panels outside of the main meetings – for example, a recent global history webinar in 2025 focused on race and sanctity in the early modern Hispanic world (https://achahistory.org/#:~:text=Current Events Corner). The Association also collaborates with other scholarly bodies on joint sessions; for instance, it has coordinated with the American Society of Church History for joint meetings and is one of three societies (along with others representing Protestant and Orthodox church historians) that make up the U.S. National Commission for the International Commission for Comparative Church History (https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/american-catholic-historical-association#:~:text=The association is the recognized,Commission of Comparative Church History). Through such collaborations, the ACHA ensures that Catholic historical scholarship is represented in broader conversations within the historical profession. Awards and Prizes To recognize excellence in scholarship, the American Catholic Historical Association confers a number of annual awards and prizes. These honors not only celebrate outstanding research but also encourage ongoing study in Catholic history. Major ACHA awards include: John Gilmary Shea Prize (established 1944) – The ACHA’s oldest book award, created for the Association’s 25th anniversary and first awarded in 1946 (encyclopedia.com). It is given to the author (American or Canadian) of the most distinguished recent book on the history of the Catholic Church. A committee of scholars reviews books published in the previous year and selects the work that represents the most outstanding contribution to Catholic historical studies (encyclopedia.com). The Shea Prize has long been regarded as a mark of scholarly distinction in the field of Catholic history. Howard R. Marraro Prize – Established by a bequest from Professor Howard R. Marraro of Columbia University (who died in 1972), this prize honors excellence in Italian and Italo-American Catholic history (encyclopedia.com). Awarded annually since the 1970s, it recognizes the best book published in the previous year on Italian history or Italian-American Catholic topics (encyclopedia.com). The Marraro Prize reflects the ACHA’s support for scholarship in areas of Catholic history beyond the English-speaking world. Peter Guilday Prize – Named for ACHA founder Msgr. Peter Guilday, this prize is awarded (in years when merited) for an outstanding scholarly article by a first-time author (encyclopedia.com). Specifically, it honors the best article accepted for publication in The Catholic Historical Review by an author who has not previously published any scholarly work (encyclopedia.com). By spotlighting new scholars, the Guilday Prize encourages emerging historians and promotes fresh research in Catholic history. John Tracy Ellis Dissertation Award – Initiated in 1995, the Ellis award (formally the John Tracy Ellis Memorial Fund) provides a grant each year to a doctoral student for dissertation research in Catholic history (encyclopedia.com). Named after the eminent church historian John Tracy Ellis, this award helps support graduate-level research, reflecting the ACHA’s commitment to cultivating the next generation of scholars (encyclopedia.com). Christopher J. Kauffman Prize – A recently inaugurated prize (launched in 2025) that honors the author of a distinguished monograph in U.S. Catholic history
(achahistory.org). Named after historian Christopher J. Kauffman (a prominent scholar of American Catholicism and long-time ACHA member), this prize is intended to spur innovative research and recognize new insights into the Catholic experience in the United States (achahistory.org). It was established thanks to dedicated donors and is the latest addition to the Association’s accolades.
In addition to these, the ACHA bestows several other honors, such as the Distinguished Scholar Award, Distinguished Teaching Award, and Distinguished Service Award, which recognize exceptional contributions to Catholic historical scholarship, teaching, and service to the Association, respectively (achahistory.org, achahistory.org). Another new honor introduced in the mid-2020s is the Trisco–Minnich Prize, which recognizes outstanding editing of works in Catholic Church history (named in honor of Msgr. Robert F. Trisco and Dr. Nelson H. Minnich, two long-serving editors and scholars) (achahistory.org, achahistory.org). The array of prizes and awards offered by the ACHA highlights its role in promoting excellence and mentoring scholars in the field of Catholic history. The awards are typically presented at the annual meeting, giving the scholarly community an opportunity to celebrate the achievements of its members. Organization and Leadership The ACHA is governed in a manner similar to many academic associations. Its leadership structure consists of an elected President, an elected Executive Council of nine members, and an appointed Executive Director who manages day-to-day operations. (achahistory.org). The President of the ACHA serves a one-year term (which has been the custom for most of the Association’s history) and is often succeeded by the Vice President from the previous year, ensuring continuity. The Executive Council members serve staggered terms and represent the broader membership in guiding the Association’s policies and programs. Additionally, the editor of The Catholic Historical Review sits on the Executive Council ex officio (by virtue of their position) (achahistory.org). The ACHA’s staff includes roles such as a Communications Assistant and a Membership/Web Administrator, and it benefits from support by its host institution (Mount St. Mary’s University provides an administrative assistant as part of the hosting arrangement) (achahistory.org). Notable individuals have played leading roles in the Association over the years. Monsignor Peter Guilday, as the founder, was a driving force in the early development of the ACHA (he served as the Association’s secretary and guiding spirit in the 1920s). The first president, Dr. Lawrence F. Flick, was not only a medical doctor famed for fighting tuberculosis but also a passionate Catholic historian; his election as president in 1920 symbolized the bridge the ACHA built between lay scholars and the Church’s history (en.wikipedia.org). In the ensuing decades, the presidency of the ACHA was held by a diverse array of scholars – lay and clergy, Catholic and non-Catholic. For example, historian Carlton J. H. Hayes (a professor at Columbia University and later U.S. Ambassador to Spain) served as ACHA President in 1931, bringing prestige from the broader historical profession (achahistory.org). Other prominent past presidents include European medievalist Gerhart B. Ladner (1963) (achahistory.org), church historian John Tracy Ellis (who, in addition to his long stint as executive secretary, also served a term as president in the 1960s), and more recently scholars like Brenna Moore (2022) and Mary Dunn (2025), reflecting the ongoing infusion of new academic talent. The inclusion of non-Catholic presidents – such as the early example of Gaillard Hunt in 1924 – highlights the Association’s ecumenical openness (en.wikipedia.org)
The Executive Director(formerly titled Executive Secretary Treasurer) has historically been a crucial figure in the ACHA’s continuity. John Tracy Ellis filled that role for many years in the mid-20th century, professionalizing the Association’s operations. His successor, Monsignor Robert F. Trisco, then served as executive secretary for 45 years (1961–2006), an extraordinarily long tenure (achahistory.org). During Trisco’s administration, the ACHA’s membership and activities flourished; he managed everything from membership drives and organizing meetings to editing Association reports for publication (achahistory.org, achahistory.org). For his service, Msgr. Trisco was honored with a special Centennial Award in 2019 (achahistory.org). After Trisco’s retirement, the executive position became a executive staff role typically based at the host university; in recent years, that role has been held by R. Bentley Anderson, SJ at Fordham University (2011-2018) (http://cas.loyno.edu/religious-studies/bios/r-bentley-anderson-sj) and Charles T. Strauss, PhD at Mount St. Mary’s University (2018-present) (https://achahistory.org/about/administration/) . The ACHA’s governance is thus a blend of academic leadership (through its elected scholars who serve as president and council members) and stable administration (through its long-term executive directors and institutional hosts). This structure has enabled the Association to maintain a consistent presence in the scholarly community while rotating in fresh leadership annually. Institutional Affiliations and Partnerships From its beginning, the American Catholic Historical Association has maintained strong institutional affiliations that enhance its mission. Foremost is its affiliation with the American Historical Association (AHA). The ACHA has been an official affiliated society of the AHA since 1919, giving it a platform within the broader historical profession (encyclopedia.com). By meeting jointly with the AHA and participating in its programs, the ACHA ensures that Catholic history is represented in national scholarly dialogues and benefits from the AHA’s organizational resources. The ACHA is also closely linked to Catholic academic institutions. For many decades, the Association’s headquarters and archives were housed at The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. (encyclopedia.com). Catholic University’s Department of History and its library provided support, and the university’s press publishes the Catholic Historical Review on the Association’s behalf. In recent years, the ACHA’s base of operations moved to Mount St. Mary’s University in Maryland, which now serves as the host institution for the Association’s offices and provides logistical support (achahistory.org). This partnership reflects the continued reliance on Catholic higher education institutions to sustain the Association’s work. The ACHA has received formal recognition from the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in the U.S., being acknowledged by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (encyclopedia.com). While the Association operates independently as a scholarly society, this recognition signifies a mutual respect and the importance of the ACHA’s role in documenting Catholic history. Internationally, the ACHA engages with the global community of church historians through the International Commission for Comparative Church History. The ACHA is one of three constituent societies that form the U.S. national delegation to this international commission, alongside other organizations devoted to church history (encyclopedia.com). This connection enables collaboration and exchange with Catholic and other Christian historical associations worldwide, and ACHA representatives periodically attend international congresses of historical sciences to present American Catholic scholarship in a global context (achahistory.org. Additionally, the ACHA collaborates with various scholarly networks and projects. It partners with H-Net (Humanities & Social Sciences Online) to manage the H-Catholic discussion network, fostering an online scholarly community. It has co-sponsored conferences or sessions with groups like the American Society of Church History and regional historical societies. The Association also works with publishers (like Catholic University of America Press) and archives on projects to publish important Catholic historical documents (e.g. the John Carroll Papers project). Through these affiliations and partnerships, the ACHA amplifies its impact, tapping into broader resources and reaching audiences beyond its immediate membership. Recent Developments and Impact In the past decade, the American Catholic Historical Association has launched new initiatives to adapt to changing scholarly landscapes and to further its outreach. Embracing digital technology, the ACHA has begun offering virtual seminars and webinars on specialized topics, allowing participation from scholars around the world (achahistory.org). The “Hidden Catholic Collections” blog and the “New Books in Catholic Studies” podcast (both managed by ACHA committees) are examples of how the Association highlights new research and archival discoveries in an accessible format (achahistory.org). These programs aim to engage younger scholars and the public, ensuring that Catholic history remains a vibrant part of historical discourse. The ACHA’s social media presence (on platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube) has also grown, providing timely news and fostering a sense of community among geographically dispersed members (achahistory.org, achahistory.org). Significantly, the Association has demonstrated a commitment to advocacy on issues affecting historical scholarship and academic life. For instance, in 2025 the ACHA issued a public statement urging a Catholic college to reconsider proposed cuts to its history faculty, aligning with the AHA’s stance on defending historians’ roles in higher education (achahistory.org). This kind of engagement shows the ACHA’s increasing willingness to be the voice for Catholic historians not just in research but in matters of professional concern. Internally, the Association has expanded its committee structure and introduced new awards (such as the Kauffman Prize and Trisco-Minnich Prize) to address emerging needs and to honor a wider range of scholarly contributions (achahistory.org, achahistory.org). These developments have been accompanied by efforts to grow and diversify its membership, including outreach to scholars of global Catholicism and those from underrepresented groups in academia. Over more than a century, the ACHA has established itself as the leading learned society for Catholic history in the United States. It is widely regarded as the recognized Catholic voice within the American historical profession (encyclopedia.com), advocating for the importance of religious history in scholarly research. The Association’s journal and conferences have provided a platform for generations of historians to publish and debate interpretations of Catholic history, from the medieval church to contemporary Catholic communities. Many influential works in American and ecclesiastical history have been nurtured through ACHA presentations or appeared in its Catholic Historical Review. By supporting rigorous scholarship, facilitating dialogue between church historians and secular historians, and mentoring young academics, the ACHA has had a profound impact on the study of Catholic history. Its commitment to high scholarly standards and inclusivity has helped bring Catholic historiography into the mainstream of historical inquiry. As it moves forward into its second century, the American Catholic Historical Association continues to adapt and thrive, guided by its historic mission and an active membership devoted to exploring the rich tapestry of Catholic experience through the tools of history. Sources: The information in this article is drawn from the American Catholic Historical Association’s official publications and reputable reference works, including the New Catholic Encyclopedia (encyclopedia.com, encyclopedia.com), the ACHA’s own website and centennial reports (achahistory.org, achahistory.org), and affiliated organizations’ profiles (en.wikipedia.org, en.wikipedia.org), to ensure accuracy and a neutral presentation consistent with Wikipedia standards. Historycatholic (talk) 03:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Not done for now @Historycatholic, this is completely unreadable. Could you please insert paragraph breaks, separate the suggested new content from your comments on it, format your references (see Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1, and explain why you want this change made? Also, from what I did manage to get through, I suspect this is far to promotional to be used. Rusalkii (talk) 21:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)