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Draw and Draw result

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It is far too early to put information onto the article for the December 2025 Draw and Draw result, even though it is collapsible. How do you hide this section, when it has multiple <!- - and - -> arrows to hide other details? Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:42, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It requires a lot of repeated <!-- after each -->. It can really be a nightmare when there are a lot of them. I'll remove all the <!--{{fb|}}--> to make it much easier. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 00:33, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to Add Weather and Climates Section under Venues

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I would like to propose adding a Weather and Climates section under Venues to provide useful information regarding climate variations across different host cities. Unlike previous World Cups hosted in a single country, the 2026 tournament will take place across 16 cities in the United States, Canada, and Mexico, spanning multiple climate zones. As a result, both fans and athletes traveling between host cities will encounter significant variations in temperature, humidity, and overall weather conditions. Providing climate-related information will be essential to help teams and spectators prepare accordingly. Therefore, this item should be included under the Venues section. WIKIJKY (talk) 02:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a travel guide. The climate information is already present in the respective city articles and further details would be more appropriate for Wikivoyage. SounderBruce 06:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given the diverse climate zones of the 2026 World Cup host cities (ranging from high-altitude conditions in Mexico City to humid heat in Miami), weather plays a critical role in player performance, fan experience, and logistical planning. The 2022 Qatar World Cup acknowledged this by implementing stadium cooling systems, and recent research highlights the impact of environmental factors on sports events. A brief mention of venue-specific weather conditions (e.g., Miami’s humidity affecting endurance) would provide valuable, tournament-relevant context without turning the section into a travel guide. WIKIJKY (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No offense, but is there a reason your comments read like they're written by AI? Adeletron 3030 (talkedits) 19:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed Edits to the 2026 FIFA World Cup Article

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Hello Wikipedia community,

I intend to enhance the 2026 FIFA World Cup article. Below is a detailed outline of our proposed edits. Your feedback and collaboration would be greatly appreciated!

1. Symbols

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  • Mascot (Newly added):
    • Add information regarding the ongoing speculation and fan discussions about the potential mascot, emphasizing North America's cultural diversity and shared heritage due to joint hosting.
  • Music:
    • Update the music section to include recent releases for Vancouver and Toronto, detailing artist information, thematic significance, and fan responses.

2. Fan Fests

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  • Locations:
    • Provide updated information on recently confirmed Fan Fest and public viewing events, particularly for host cities like Toronto, ensuring accuracy based on official announcements from FIFA and local governments.
  • Fan Engagement Strategy (Newly added):
    • Include FIFA's typical travel advisories and matchday guidelines, particularly emphasizing travel preparations and climate-related considerations.

3. Marketing

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  • Posters:
    • Detail the role of official host city posters in branding, highlighting recent updates such as Philadelphia's newly unveiled designs.
    • Explain their significance in terms of local heritage, global promotion, and cultural representation.

4. Controversies and Potential Issues (Newly added)

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  • Midterm Elections in the United States:
    • Discuss the potential impacts of the 2026 U.S. midterm elections on local policy, funding, and logistics relevant to tournament planning and organization.
  • Expanded Tournament Format:
    • Clarify how the increased number of participating teams influences scheduling, venue allocation, and overall competition dynamics, highlighting the differences compared to previous tournaments.
  • Possible New Football Rules:
    • Mention Arsène Wenger’s proposed new offside rule, noting that while not officially adopted, it might be tested during the tournament, potentially significantly affecting gameplay.

I welcome feedback from all editors and appreciate your collaboration and suggestions throughout this process. Thank you!

WIKIJKY (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the first bullet, politics has no place in this article unless the World Cup is directly affected. Besides, post-1992 US politics is a contentious topic that would just drag the article into a quagmire that we don't want.
Regarding the second bullet, I believe that would be better explained at FIFA World Cup#Expansion to 48 teams or FIFA World Cup#Final tournament since it has effects beyond this tournament.
Regarding the third bullet, I direct you to WP:CRYSTAL. Until FIFA states they will test any new rules during the tournament, such conjecture or rumor should be left out. I find it hard to believe that such a rule would be tested at the highest level before being introduced elsewhere. All other rule changes have been tested at lower levels before being introduced to the higher levels. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:41, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jkudlick's point about WP:CRYSTAL applies equally to the "Mascot" bullet point. "Ongoing speculation and fan discussions about the potential mascot" (emphasis added) plainly violate WP:CRYSTAL and don't belong here. There is no reason not to wait until the organizers announce the mascot.
As to "fan engagement strategy," you already proposed that above in a separate section on this talk page and @SounderBruce: quite clearly stated why it doesn't belong. While you disagreed with him, I strongly suggest you read WP:NOTGUIDE before you attempt to add that sort of material here. The "Fan Fest" stuff strikes me as somewhat similar to a travel guide, though I suppose it's arguably more directly related to the subject matter that vague "travel advisories" and "gameday guidelines." One thing that concerns me about your proposal to discuss "climate-related" issues is that it runs the risk of the article turning into complaints about summertime weather in North America being hotter than some people prefer. 1995hoo (talk) 18:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@1995hoo @Jkudlick Based on the user's writing style and the weirdly organized proposal, I'm about 80% convinced WIKIJKY is using generative AI to interact with Wikipedia. I understand Wikipedia's policy on the use of LLM in discussions is still developing, but if I were an admin, I'd close both those threads as obvious AI use and ask that the editor use their own thoughts and words. Adeletron 3030 (talkedits) 19:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi sorry to bother you a lot. English is not my native language, that's why I use AI to help to polish my writing. But please don't be sensitive that I am still striving to enhance the accuracy of this page and I will follow wiki's guidance about AI usage. WIKIJKY (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WIKIJKY It's disappointing that whatever AI model you're using didn't tell you that "...please don't be sensitive that I am striving to enhance the accuracy of this page" is a rude way to address people in a collaborative setting. Anyway, a few of my thoughts:
  1. My issue isn't so much that you're using AI to form your sentences, but that you're using it to generate content. It's clear from the summary you copy-pasted above that LLMs don't understand Wikipedia's mission and scope. And the AI response to SounderBruce's concerns tells me that it has trouble interacting with other editors in a meaningful way, that it does a pretty good show of seeming to have a conversation, but it tends to miss important points or to search for answers that require research or learning.
  2. There are 342 different language editions of Wikipedia. There is no need for you to contribute in a language that you're not fluent in, especially when it's the version of Wikipedia with the most number of active editors.
  3. Please don't use Wikipedia to brush up on your English skills. That's not what we're here for.
  4. And I advise you to stop using AI to "polish" your writing, because it makes you sound like a bot. The language is needlessly verbose and stuffy, and organized like a high school student essay.
Adeletron 3030 (talkedits) 12:43, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As most have said, nothing should be added that is speculative or unknown at this point. Also the midterm elections will happen months after the tournament is over, so that doesn't even make sense as a topic. Adeletron may be right as the user page says they are a computer science student very in to AI. Not impressed. Chris1834 Talk 19:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given that @WIKIJKY: is still editing here, and today posting fragments of material already reverted due to suspected AI-content, and similar changes in sentence structres in articles like recent edits to Lanzhou Zhongchuan International Airport, should this be considered by Administrators rather than general editors with a football bent? Matilda Maniac (talk) 00:40, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
just wanna say that I am trying to improve a small section. I believed the content I added was necessary and supported by certain reliable sources. Everything I did clearly follows the norms and Wikipedia policies WIKIJKY (talk) 00:49, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reiteration of MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN

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I am making this topic "sticky" so it remains visible on the talk page and will not become an invalid section link in the future.

As has been discussed and determined several times (specifically November 2019 on this talk page, December 2022 on this talk page, a simultaneous discussion on this talk page in December 2022, yet another simultaneous discussion on this talk page in December 2022, December 2022 at WT:FOOTY, an RFC at WT:FOOTY that was never officially closed, and July – August 2023 on this talk page), consensus is to use American English to satisfy MOS:ENGVAR on this article due to the vast majority of the matches occurring in the United States. MOS:RETAIN states that unless there is valid reason, the variation of English should not be changed. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trump section on task force etc?

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[1], [2], [3], [4]. Doug Weller talk 18:51, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it can be covered under "Controversies" section. Masseinull (talk) 20:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Controversies section

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I've added a section for controversies and controversial topics around the tournament, something that is covered in 2022 world cup page too, which should be included in this page due to its close relation. Feel free to suggest edits. Masseinull (talk) 19:51, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think its important. Maybe we need to add more serious controversies as we get closer to the tournament dates like political controversies that will affect the tournament. Looks good for now! And also what do you guys suggest for Fan fest? I just added as a section but as we get close by to tournament dates we can add more information into it. Shyamravi25 (talk) 20:01, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The section was removed because it contained promotional language, and this has not been fixed. Consider reading WP:NPOV and the edit summary of the removal before attempting to re-add it again. SounderBruce 20:34, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, i took it straight up from the official page. Needs some rewrite definitely. I will try to keep it neutral. Shyamravi25 (talk) 20:46, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I trimmed down a bit because much of it was an explanation of fan festivals that could be found by clicking over to FIFA Fan Festival, and some of the proposed site info was outdated. Adeletron 3030 (talkedits) 13:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First and second Trump administrations section

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I have removed general grievances against the Trump administration that are not relevant to the tournament - tariff-related or the sovereignty of Canada - these clearly do not belong here. But this whole section is WP:CRYSTAL based on something the First Trump administration did (that did not affect the 2026 World Cup) that the Second Trump administration MIGHT do. It also doesn't exactly read as WP:NPOV as well, which I would say about the overall Controversies section. I suggest all of this section gets removed. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed two sections, on gun violence and Trump's first-term travel bans, due to their broad nature and lack of a direct link to the tournament's organization. Infantino has already visited the United States and met Trump several times this year, so presenting his 2017 comments to suggest a growing rift between FIFA and the Trump administration seems inadequate. Pizzigs (talk) 13:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed FIFA World Cup 26 Host Cities Sonic IDs page

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Hello Wikipedia community,

I intend to create a page about the Host Cities Sonic IDs made by the host cities for the 2026 FIFA World Cup article. This page will be similar the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Official Soundtrack one. Your feedback and collaboration would be greatly appreciated! AncientEgyptFan (talk) 04:41, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]