Talk:2024 Barnsdall–Bartlesville tornado

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LASTING impact?

I did deliberate on creating an article on this over the past week, but is it really needed? It was pretty much the only tornado from the May 6 outbreak, and I think it's good as it is as a section. I don't think it's at the same level as Greenfield or even Elkhorn, because it didn't cause too much damage, nor has much come out for rebuilding, wider impacts in the region, or impacts to the town. Of course it's impactful, but I think this article would be best merged into the Tornado outbreak of May 6-10, 2024 article - in other words, it's comparable to the 2024 Sulphur tornado article - and even that I honestly think has a better argument for inclusion. Departure– (talk) 15:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Y e s. If the Elkhorn article is considered notable, this surely is. As stated previously, notability and impact aren't the same. Planning on expanding, so CFORK shouldn't be an issue. It being "the only tornado from the May 6 outbreak" doesn't matter; see Jarrell, Tri-State, Wayne, Washington, Snyder, among others. E_F⁵ 15:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Departure–: Here's a list of sources discussing the tornado 3+ months post-event:

There's more, although this should be enough. Here's a list of significant sources discussing the tornado:

I think this is pretty clearly notable. E_F⁵ 16:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then. I think these sources are satisfactory then; I won't open an AFD like I was briefly contemplating. What I'm most upset about is the 2003 Manchester tornado which literally wiped Manchester, South Dakota off the map but doesn't have its own article and really lacks sources too. Departure– (talk) 16:55, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my AfD table, too:

Criteria no.	Sub-criteria	Description	Pass?	Fail?	Comments
1 (Coverage)	1a	Any coverage?	Y		Quick-delete if criterion is not met
	1b	Any significant coverge? (e.g. CNN or the NYT)	Y		CBS News, NYT
	1c	Any lasting coverage past 6 months after the tornado?	Y		2 weeks ago
2 (Strength)	2a	Was the tornado EF0-EF2?
	2b	Was the tornado EF3?
	2c	Was the tornado EF4?	Y		Usually a sign of notability
	2d	Was the tornado EF5?
3 (Damage)	3a	Did the tornado kill at least one person?	Y		Usually a sign of notability
	3b	Did the tornado injure at least one person?	Y
	3c	Did the tornado cause monetary damage totaling over $200,000 USD?	Y
4 (Aftermath)	4a	Did the tornado significantly damage a town?	Y		Barnsdall, Oklahoma
4 (Aftermath)	4b	Any notable deaths?		Y	Usually not the case, can be skipped
5 (Content)	5a	Is the article not a CFORK of an existing section?	WIP
	5b	Can the content not be easily merged into a section?	WIP
	5c	Is the article longer than the page on its respective outbreak?	WIP		Usually a quick-keep
	5d	Is the article a GA, FA or has recently been featured on DYK?		Y	Usually a quick-keep
6 (Overall)	6a	Are at least five of these criterion met, with exceptions made if needed?	Y		If at least 1b, 3b, 3c, 5c and 1c are met, then a keep is warranted. If not, then a delete/other option is warranted. Exceptions can be made at my discretion.
Final verdict:

E_F⁵ 16:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing. @EF5: I don't think the target should be 2024 Barnsdall tornado - as seen with the hotel video section, it should be 2024 Barnsdall–Bartlesville tornado - that is a redlink and you can move it to mainspace now instead of waiting for the speedy deletion. Departure– (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. E_F⁵ 18:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]