Talk:2024–2025 French political crisis

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On 16 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2024 French political crisis to 2024–present French political crisis. The result of the discussion was moved.

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is this still going on? Sm8900 (talk) 04:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moving to alternate title with 2024-2025 versus 2024-Present per consensus below and better alignment with WP:CRYSTAL (closed by non-admin page mover) TiggerJay (talk) 05:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 French political crisis → 2024–present French political crisis – We're now in 2025. There was a vote of no confidence against the Bayrou government as recently as today, which is now seeing the NFP fracture a bit as the Socialist Party refused to support it - I don't think the crisis has quite ended yet. We can change to 2024–2025 later if the issues end this year, but for now I'm modeling the title off the still-ongoing crisis in Bulgaria. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. CNC (talk) 01:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per The Kip's reasoning. NHCLS (talk) 16:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024-2025 French political crisis and oppose the use of "present" per Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and the principle underlying the "as of" guideline. We don't know when this will end, no one does. All we know is that it spans at least from 2024 to 2025. Just say that. If we use "present" the best case scenario is that the moment the crisis ends, our title immediately becomes out of date and someone needs to remember to change it. Worse case, there's an ambiguous end, we have to have a 7+ day discussion to decide "is it over? should we rename?", and our title is out of date for at least a week. With 2024-2025 we only need to check the page title once a year rather than constantly, and on a known date: January 1. I think the Bulgarian crisis title is a bad precedent. We should avoid creating page titles that can quickly go out of date and require constant monitoring. That will not scale well. — Wug·a·po·des 01:32, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Wugapodes' alt move. Cremastra (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support alt move per above. themoon@talk:~$ 14:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject France has been notified of this discussion. CNC (talk) 01:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.