Draft talk:Category Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland)
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Opposed speedy move request
[edit]- Category:Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection to Category:Department of Social Protection, Community and Rural Development and the Islands – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht to Category:Department of Media, Tourism, Arts, Culture, Sport and the Gaeltacht – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Justice and Equality to Category:Department of Justice (Ireland) – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government to Category:Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland) to Category:Department of Foreign Affairs (Ireland) – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:40, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Education and Skills (Ireland) to Category:Department of Education (Ireland) – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment to Category:Department of Climate Action, Communications Networks and Transport – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:36, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation to Category:Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine to Category:Department of Agriculture and the Marine – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Department of Children and Youth Affairs to Category:Department of Children, Disability, Equality and Integration – C2D per main article Spleodrach (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Spleodrach: I oppose all of these for now, pending reliable sources confirming the name changes. For the same reason, I have reverted several of the moves of head articles on these departments, because none of the moves cited any source; some made a vague wave at gov.ie, but none linked to a specific page which lists the changes.
WP:C2D can be used when the article title is long-term stable, or there has been a WP:RM discussion; neither of those apply here. C2D also includes renamings "to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination)". There are no citations for any of these nominations, and some of the titles above do not coincide with the list at https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation-information/9b5048-government-ministers/ or https://www.gov.ie/en/help/departments/. For example, both those govt pages list the "Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine", and so does https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/.
I am sure that this has all been done in good faith, but we need reliable sources. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Spleodrach: I oppose all of these for now, pending reliable sources confirming the name changes. For the same reason, I have reverted several of the moves of head articles on these departments, because none of the moves cited any source; some made a vague wave at gov.ie, but none linked to a specific page which lists the changes.