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Music festivals in Venue column on tour date table, or in Explanatory footnotes?

Consensus has been reached to use Explanatory footnotes (efns) for the tour date tables, and to move the festivals into the efns, and replace them in the table with the venue the festival took place at to distinguish. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:40, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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When it comes to concert articles, I would like to know if there is a preference for the usage of festival performances on any and/or every concert tour article? Having observed articles and worked on them, a majority of the concert articles look to feature the festival's names in the Explanatory footnote (efn) next to the date the concert took place, with the location where the festival took place, like From Zero World Tour, M72 World Tour and The Scarlet Tour as examples.

A few other articles that I have seen place the festival as the venue itself, which in my honesty, does not make any sense, and appears vague to anyone who would be interested in knowing where exactly the festival took place. Dark Passion Play World Tour and World on Fire World Tour are examples of this. Although, a majority of concert articles use explanatory footnotes, I would like to get a consensus from others to see which is preferred in regards to festivals.

Please show your preference ("Explanatory footnote" or "In-Table") with reasoning included. HorrorLover555 (talk) 05:37, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explanatory footnotes It does not make sense to even have the festival as the venue, as per my reason above when I had started the discussion. With a festival in the venue column, it could potentially confuse the average reader who may be left to wonder where exactly the festival took place and what venue the festival is/was at. HorrorLover555 (talk) 05:41, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do not include at all. For all the time I've perused concert tour articles, I have almost always seen dates for festival performances included on the tables. To me, it never made sense. Often, these performances are not explicitly billed by the artist/labels as part of the tour, and secondary RS even tend to make an explicit distinction.

I encountered this problem with the SOS Tour article many moons ago, when several people added a substantial list of festival dates implying that they were part of the tour. Which... no they were not. I explained in the edit summary of my revert: "these festival appearances shouldn't count as tour dates ... many sources treat them as separate from the tour. see this NME article and this Teen Vogue article".

To quote the former, "SZA kicks off her European festival headline run with a stunning performance that brings the striking visuals of her 'SOS' tour – lighthouse, anchor, wrecking ball and all – to the Barcelona stage." And to quote the latter, "SZA has been super busy traveling across both the United States and overseas (including New Zealand) for her SOS tour. At the end of May, the musician performed at the Gazebo Festival in Kentucky, then flew to Barcelona, Spain, to appear at Primavera Sound on June 1." Elias 🦗🐜 ^{[Chat, they chattin', they chat]} 12:25, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PSA There was also a discussion at Guts World Tour in that same matter, and the discussion had concluded with an agreement to remove the festivals from the table. Although, there are IPs restoring the festivals after that discussion had closed. You may be right, but we should wait until there is more input from others. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would include them with a note.★Trekker (talk) 21:24, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So explanatory footnote? HorrorLover555 (talk) 03:30, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my bad.★Trekker (talk) 12:17, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Pinging users who have previously contributed to other concert articles for further comment: Vaughan J., Iron.secrets, Chrishm21, NegativeMP1, Beatpoet, Oscarozzi, Ippantekina, 174.54.167.103, Alex2ruiz, and MetalSword. HorrorLover555 (talk) 20:18, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would include them with explanatory footnotes. I would only not include them, if the artist explicitly says they are not part of the tour. The example tours above (M72 World Tour and From Zero World Tour) both included festivals as part of the tour with official posters and tour announcments. Iron.secrets (talk) 17:39, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My vote would be for inclusion with an explanatory footnote, especially if sourcing is found connecting the festival concert(s) to the tour. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:35, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Art of Personal Chaos concerts listed at Requested moves

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Jonas20: Living the Dream Tour listed at Requested moves

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Should we be including songs performed during a VIP soundcheck?

I just came across this on the Miss Possessive Tour page, there's an entire section below the setlist dedicated to songs that were performed only during the VIP soundcheck… I feel it's very unnecessary as most sound checks only include like what less than 50-100 people? Also, doesn't really represent the actual show which is what should be covered as the main topic. Pillowdelight (talk) 05:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Up All Night: Live in 2025 listed at Requested moves

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Template talk:Infobox concert#Elipsis in next concert/next tour

There is a discussion ongoing at Template talk:Infobox concert#Elipsis in next concert/next tour which may be of interest to members of this Wikiproject. RachelTensions (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Oasis Live '25 Tour#Discussion on Joey Waronker as either a band member or additional musician

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Oasis Live '25 Tour#Discussion on Joey Waronker as either a band member or additional musician, which is well within the scope of this WikiProject. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:58, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]