Wikipedia talk:Ultraviolet
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Going Ultraviolet
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Hello there! By now, you may have already noticed that RedWarn hasn't had any major updates since 16.1 (released on March 8, 2021), and we've only been sending out some minor patches and bugfixes since then. In that time, we've been hard at work developing a complete rewrite of the project since September 2020, and we've finally done enough work to be able to release a beta version of this rewrite soon.
Because of many different factors, including the rewrite having diverged so much from the original code, the team has decided to give this version of RedWarn a brand new name. We've decided to call it Ultraviolet; electromagnetic radiation found past the opposite side of red on the visible light spectrum. Releases of the userscript will eventually be available on user pages of 10nm — 10 nanometers being the smallest possible wavelength of ultraviolet light. We're still working on getting a user-friendly version of Ultraviolet available; we ask for your patience as we get closer to releasing more feature-filled builds of Ultraviolet.
- Is this a new script or just a rebranded version of RedWarn?
In essence, Ultraviolet is a rewritten version of RedWarn. That said, most of the original code has been removed or replaced. Significant work has also been done to make the process of using the script smooth and universal, removing nearly all of the UI-related bugs experienced in the current version of RedWarn. In addition, we're also working on Safari support, mobile usability, internationalization (other languages), wiki-specific configurations, a dark mode, and a lot more features that make Ultraviolet just work out of the box.
- What this means for RedWarn
For a while, we've been holding off on development of further versions of RedWarn in favor of the rewrite. Expanding on the current code is a feat that would take a significant amount of time, on par with just rewriting the script itself. For now, RedWarn will still be supported and given security updates and patches for minor bugs. Once Ultraviolet has been completed and integrates all the features of RedWarn, we will decommission RedWarn and ask users to switch to the new userscript.
- What this means for you, as a user
Stick to RedWarn while we're still working on implementing all the features of RedWarn into Ultraviolet. Rest assured, we will still provide updates that prioritize user safety and security, so you can still use RedWarn without the fear of compromise. We highly recommend to anyone who does counter-vandalism patrol often to use only RedWarn for now in order to avoid any catastrophic bugs. We're still finishing up on making the script backwards-compatible with your existing RedWarn configuration, after that we'll begin providing beta versions of Ultraviolet, so that anyone who wishes to use Ultraviolet before it has caught up with RedWarn can do so.
You'll be able to keep on using RedWarn until we've made our first release version (i.e. 1.0) of Ultraviolet. After that, we will require you to switch to Ultraviolet from RedWarn, as we will be dropping support for RedWarn. Although this may be a bit of a bother, we ask for your patience in this eventual transition.
- What else this means
We'll be moving away from the RedWarn name entirely in the coming months. The team believes it's important to move away from the name, as most of Ultraviolet has been built from scratch and holds little to no resemblance to RedWarn (at least in terms of the code), and due to some other reasons.
This is a big milestone for us as userscript developers, and we hope to have your full support. In case you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to ask us about them below. Thanks!
Written by Chlod, Berrely, Sennecaster, and Remagoxer. Published by Chlod (RW • say hi!) 19:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC).
- @Chlod, is there any update on the progress of this? There's no rush, just curious. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there, @Qwerfjkl! The developers are currently busy on a few things, me specifically being busy (in recent months) with Deputy, although now that the bulk of the starting work on that has wrapped up, I can start working on Ultraviolet again. In the meantime, we've been doing some background work that'll help us facilitate the move from GitLab.org to Wikimedia GitLab, and we're currently planning how to perform that migration within the near future. Next up on the list of major features up for implementation is a module for marking pages for speedy deletion, so that's on my list of things to research. Hope this answers your question! Chlod (UV • say hi!) 03:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Chlod, is UV is in full swing operation or still in the process of moving? ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 21:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's still moving but close to completion, I would advise to remain with redwarn as UV is still in beta and doesn't have all the features of redwarn fully implemented. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 21:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up @Zippybonzo. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 04:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- @98Tigerius: All of our old RedWarn pages have moved already. We just haven't changed the top banner since UV doesn't have a 1.0 release yet. Right now, UV is already equipped with a lot of the basic features, and it's just a matter of porting all of the old features back in (and for MAT and Quick Templates, redesigning the process entirely). Implementing these would benefit a sprint, but it's slowly been just me doing the work as other members of the team have been busy with real life things (and so have I). I don't like giving timetables when I don't know if I can fulfill it, so there's no estimations on when UV 1.0 will be out. @Zippybonzo's right in that UV still lacks features, but if you don't use anything in Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/Compatibility matrix labeled "Not yet", then switching over shouldn't be an issue. Ultimately it's up to you on whether you'd like to switch or not. Chlod (UV • say hi!) 07:37, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- Great and thanks a lot for giving more info about the progress of UV. I already used UV for short period but switch back to RW. You are doing well and all development team, keep it up! ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 13:50, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's still moving but close to completion, I would advise to remain with redwarn as UV is still in beta and doesn't have all the features of redwarn fully implemented. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 21:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I wanted to ask how this is going since it's been quite a while; is there a timeline on it?
- It looks like quick templating is the main feature still missing. Could the code for this just be copied from RW for a stopgap? – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 19:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Two Install Buttons
[edit]Hi, I see two install buttons on Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/Install/Easy. The code on that page is super complex, I don't dare myself on touching anything. Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 00:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
If you see two buttons, either one should work.
- Try either button. ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 08:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Adding a user warning to RedWarn
[edit]Hello all,
I recently made the Uw-gaming
series of user warnings for gaming the system and would like them to be added to RedWarn. How would I ask for them to be included in the next patch? » Gommeh (he/him) 14:03, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- You can add it to Wikipedia:RedWarn/Default Warnings. I've added it in Special:Diff/1292794088, under the category "Other". Feel free to edit the metadata (or of any other warning for that matter, it's on-wiki for a reason!) ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 21:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. Will it take time to update or anything? I didn't see it as an option when I tried to look for it on RedWarn. » Gommeh (he/him) 15:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's a bit hidden. Settings > Warnings > Clear changes and sync with public database ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 16:57, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. Will it take time to update or anything? I didn't see it as an option when I tried to look for it on RedWarn. » Gommeh (he/him) 15:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Adding Uw-pronouns to default warnings
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I'd like to request the {{Uw-pronouns}} series of templates be added to the default warning set. Given the similar request above, I assume this is a fairly uncontroversial change.
Please add the JSON entry below alongside the other article conduct warnings:
"pronouns": { "name": "Incorrectly changing pronouns", "category": "Article Conduct Warnings", "template": "uw-pronouns", "warningLevels": [ 1, 2, 3, ] }
WindTempos they (talk • contribs) 08:35, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Race condition in reporting a page to RfPP resulting in duplicate?
[edit]Hi, Yesterday, I made a report at RfPP and @Nixleovel made another report for the same page less than a minute after me using UV, which resulted in duplicate reports on RfPP for the page.
I checked with them and they said that they didn't get a warning by UV about the duplicate conflict, so figured I'd let you know in case there's room for improvement to the reporting side in UV. See User_talk:Nixleovel#Did_Ultraviolet_not_alert_you_that_the_page_was_already_listed_at_RfPP? for the details.
Since there was just 26 seconds apart between my report went in at 05:26:37 (using Twinkle) just a minute (or technically 26 seconds) before theirs at 05:27:03 (using UV), it might be just a rare occurrence race-condition, but I figured I'd let you know in any case to decide for yourself if you want to make the script more resilient to avoid duplicate reports or if race-race condition of two reports within a few seconds is ok within the margin of error as a probably rare thing. Raladic (talk) 17:50, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Add uw-isu to RedWarn and Ultraviolet
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{{uw-isu}} ("implies shared use") is a username warning similar in concept to {{uw-username-coi}}, but without the COI part. It is pretty useful when the generic username template isn't specific enough, but the account hasn't made explicit COI edits. Would it be possible to add it to RedWarn, with the following JSON code block?
"sharedUsername": {
"name": "Username may imply shared use",
"category": "Policy Violation Warnings",
"template": "uw-isu",
"warningLevels": [
6
],
"note": "Username warnings should not be added for blatant violations. In these cases, under the More Options menu, click Report user to UAA to report the username to the admins."
},
The Ultraviolet configuration page isn't template-protected (and the code block would be slightly different), but I prefer to have the go-ahead to make sure there isn't any unforeseen issue. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:35, 31 July 2025 (UTC)