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“Tim Walz was NOT a commander! That must be removed immediately. Its false and untrue.”

Dunno about Command Sergeant Majors, but there certainly seem to be a lot of Command Private Majors coming out of the woodwork on that article. Illegitimi non carburundum. Qwirkle (talk) 05:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS. Notice just being “false” isn’t enough; they gotta null-and-void it. Qwirkle (talk) 05:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah...folks who talk about the military but have never served tend to have a bad poker face. It's really in the involuntary things, like using terminology that is maybe technically correct in a very literal sense, but is just never something anyone in uniform would ever actually say. Like dude who complained about Walz not "completing the testing." There's a lot of testing involved. Drug tests, vision tests, HIV tests, hearing tests... but nobody would ever refer to the SM Academy as "the testing". GMG ^talk 10:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you remember the old joke about the Sergeant Major test site? Qwirkle (talk) 17:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? GMG ^talk 18:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One of the truly great shaggy dog stories; it can be expanded to fill a whole evening if desired. Qwirkle (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By all means. GMG ^talk 23:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, on an obscure part of Fort Fillintheblank, hidden by forest, and surrounded by triple standard concertina and the occasional toe popper, there is a single company's worth of quarters and motor pool where an engineer unit maintains a nearby grassy parade ground with fanatical fervor. At each side of the secret field are concrete curbing and gutters. Every fillinthetimeperiod, when it becomes obvious a few more Smadges are needed, prospects are sent TDY orders, and the engineers begin final preparations. A giant crane rail emerges from its hiding place, and slowly makes its way down the field, guided by the curbing. Hanging off it are soldiers armed with grass shears, comb rakes, potting soil and grass plugs perfecting the lawn without stepping on a single blade. When the job is done, the OIC flips a single cigarette butt into the field.

On the testing day, each prospect is sent down a trail to survey the area, and report his findings.

Some poor souls quickly return, and simply describe a grassy rectangular field. They will soon be passed over twice.

Some take their time, and qualify and quantify, giving dimensions, grass height and cultivar. If they are precise and accurate enough, they will be encouraged to apply for warrant officer.

But the true Ser'eant Major returns almost immediately up the trail at a trot, eyes blazing, and says "THAT FIELD IS ALL FUCKED UP!"

Qwirkle (talk) 05:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reminds me of the apocryphal story that there was a private walking on the grass in a parade field. Sarnt Major sees him and predictably "Get the hell off my grass!"

From the distance "Do you know what my name is?"

"No."

He rips off his name tape "Fuck you Sergeant Major!" And books it in the other direction.

But anyway, it is legit kindof weird that we use civilian contractors for so daggum many things but we still somehow end up with boots doing lawn care. I get the argument from attention to detail, good order and discipline, cleanliness wins and loses wars. But that's not really the kind of "mowing the grass" that the Army is supposed to be good at. GMG ^talk 11:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was in the other camp, I think relying on contractors to the degree we now do is a big problem. There are four sets of prices for everything, and only three good ones: 0ne for those who know how to do it, and can, one for those who know how, but can't, one for those who at least watch the market, and one for those stupid enough to take all their advice from the people selling things.

There isn't, thank God, a vibrant private market in making war to compare our costs with. Qwirkle (talk) 16:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't be so sure. Didn't Russia just have a thing with mercenaries? GMG ^talk 18:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joking aside, Wagner was one of the worst examples of privatization of gain and socialization of risks and costs in recent history, and that's a field with a lot of competition. Qwirkle (talk) 23:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

True — and I'm playing Devil's advocate a bit — if you've earned your CAB, you can make six figures pulling security for some...I dunno...trucking company in Syria or something. I know at least one guy who was probably going to drink himself to death and that was his way out. Get out of the States and have a weapon in your hand. Of course there's an entirely different issue there of the US subsidizing private...well...mercenaries...because nobody besides the government is going to pluck you out of high school and give you a quarter million dollars in training. These private contracts aren't exactly entry level positions. GMG ^talk 10:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a wider problem than many people realize. Everybody gets that new 2LT is often a net negative for a goodly biece of time, and that a guy starting basic training is not a useful military resource yet. The same is true, though, for most other professions, and the initial career of an engineer, say, was often in the murky overlap areas with the blue collar side of the profession. You got hired on into a vasty bullpen of a hundred desks, and did some drafting and site survey and eased your way into the realities of the job. For that initial period, though, you were a net liabilty to the company.

The bullpen is gone now; most of the introductory overlap is replaced directly by computers in most AE firms. I am not sure this is always progress. Qwirkle (talk) 18:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I saw this reply, but yes. I grow tired of getting a 2LT who hasn't been to basic, hasn't been to BOLC, but it's our fault if they get a negative comment on their OER. I'm not even an especially good Soldier and I have no idea really how I made rank.

I remember as a young SPC driving an LMTV lost in the baaaaack woods of Knox with a 2LT and having to turn around. "Sir, I need you to ground guide me so I can back up." We're totally alone and in the dark. Dude looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language. If I was king of the Army I would do lot's of things, but the first would be to mandate that you have to at least make E4 promotable before you can commission. Sir, I appreciate that you have commendable power-point-fu and great cardio, but that doesn't apply to a lot of situations. GMG ^talk 13:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The change in ossifer training from back in my day appears to be pretty dramatic. There were examples of direct commissioning then that escaped immediate formal training in the basics of soldiering, but they were in the rare specialized MOSes, not in combat arms or combat support.

Getting away from that does not strike me as a change for the better. Qwirkle (talk) 11:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I want to report something like vandalism, but don't know where, so I'm doing it here

I noticed a "bad edit" on the page Weetamoo (she was a Native American tribal princess/queen in New England, Puritan times); I reverted the edit thinking "assume good faith". Then I realized that the edit looked like a poorly attempted citation, and the source was absolutely not encyclopedic (it's now a dead link, but something like https://web.archive.org/web/20170329044918/http://royalwomen.tripod.com/id7.html ) so I looked more and noticed the numerous other edits by the same user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wheeligrl18 , and there is some absolute trash in there, like "Weetamoo was an early example of gender fluidity" with no citation.

I got your name from an earlier kerfuffel on related pages with related users like Indigenous_Girl (who is no longer active) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive311#Buffs,_Indigenous_Girl_and_CorbieVreccan

you seem like you are not insane, so I thought perhaps you'd know where to point this. I (without a login) didn't want to start doing bulk reverts, and i'm not an expert on the topic anyway. The Talk page and the page itself seem to be not looked after by anybody reliable 98.7.197.219 (talk) 02:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tripod is pretty categorically not a reliable source. As a teenager, I wrote a choose-your-own-adventure space odyssey on Tripod...just to ensure I never had a girlfriend. At any rate, the first step is to talk to the person, which is usually a pretty good move in most any disagreement. If that's unproductive, you might want to post on the talk page at WP:NDN. As a last resort, you could try posting at WP:ANI if the issues are systemic and attempts at discussion are entirely unproductive. Just be aware that ANI is unequivocally the worst place on the entire project, where time and effort go to die. But it does occasionally resolve things without making a bigger mess than there was to begin with. GMG ^talk 11:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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That odd category tag you nuked actually had something behind it, even if the something was more than a bit stupid. Rhode Island simplified its name more or less at the same time as the George Floyd protests, dropping the reference to the Providence Plantations, lest someone be triggered by the word “plantation.” Qwirkle (talk) 06:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks but no thanks. Saying I was done with the discussion wasn't a rhetorical tactic. No bar against my deciding to revisit the page at some point, weeks? months? But I've learned that letting things go is a virtue here, especially now when I'm hundreds of miles from home for the holidays. Things eventually get resolved, and in my experience an unwarranted sense of urgency creates a great deal more problems than it solves. Those who would like my opinion are invited to review the talk page. GMG ^talk 13:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

improve page Khiram village in Anantnag district union territory of Jammu and Kashmir, India

I edited this page on information which I first published on medium.com and Google Docs I wrote information based on my late grandmother views on my village shrine which I belong to so this information about shrine attributed to Prophet in Islam Mohammed where its believed there's is relic of Prophet now Wikipedia is raising many issues with that page if someone will remove those links where my original article was written based on my grandmother's views it will be wrong people make different perspectives about that article to maintain its original Author behind and with maintaining Wikipedias standards please improve this page Syed Abdul Jaleel Shah (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not continue to edit war on this page. There is an ongoing talk page discussion, as well as other editors that have reverted the edit warring single purpose IP account. Please also disclose if that is your IP that you are using. As that would constitute socking. Iljhgtn (talk) 17:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ONUS, it is your responsibility to argue why this stable version should be changed to your preferred version which is not backed up by either consensus nor the majority of the sources. You should get involved in the discussion and self-revert for now, or this risks immediate escalation to ANI. Iljhgtn (talk) 17:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think you need to re read ONUS. GMG ^talk 17:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will quote it for you, since you don't appear to like quoting anything, "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. Since I am arguing in favor of retaining the stable lead, and YOU are edit warring it to a NEW lead, then it is up to you to achieve consensus before we move to a NEW lead.

Please self-revert immediately. Iljhgtn (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go to the talk page. I'm not carrying on this discussion in two different places. GMG ^talk 17:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Iljhgtn (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Editor Fathoms Below reminisces over their successful RfA from February 2024.

In the media: Wikipedia is an extension of legacy media propaganda, says Elon Musk

Plus, reports on the ARBPIA5 case, new concerns over projects targeting Wikipedia editors, John Green gets his sponsor flowers, and other news.

Community view: 24th Wikipedia Day in New York City

Wikimedians and newbies celebrate 24 years of Wikipedia in the Brooklyn Central Library. Special guests Stephen Harrison and Clay Shirky joined in conversation.

Arbitration report: Palestine-Israel articles 5 has closed

Ending with some bans, and a new set of editing sanctions.

Traffic report: A wild drive

The start of the year was filled with a few unfortunate losses, tragic disasters, emerging tech forces and A LOT of politics.

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News and notes: Administrator elections up for reapproval and 1bil GET snagged on Commons

French Wikipedia defends a user against public threats, steward elections, and other news from the Wikimedia world.

Serendipity: Guinea-Bissau Heritage from Commons to the World

"The only time I ever took photos in my entire life".

Technology report: Hear that? The wikis go silent twice a year

From patrolling new edits to uploading photos or joining a campaign, you can count on the Wikimedia platform to be up and running — in your language, anywhere in the world. That is, except for a couple of minutes during the equinoctes.

In the media: The end of the world

Or just the end of Wikipedia as we know it?

Recent research: What's known about how readers navigate Wikipedia; Italian Wikipedia hardest to read

Of "hunters", "busybodies" and "dancers".

Opinion: Sennecaster's RfA debriefing

User Sennecaster shares her thoughts on her recent RfA and the aspects that might have played a role in making it successful.

Tips and tricks: One year after this article is posted, will every single article on Wikipedia have a short description?

What are they? Why are they important? How can we make them better? And what can you do to help?

Community view: Open letter from French Wikipedians says "no" to intimidation of volunteer contributors

Liberté, liberté chérie.

Traffic report: Temporary scars, February stars

Grammys, politics and the Super Bowl.

Essay: The source, the whole source, and nothing but the source

Straight from the source's mouth. A source is a source, of course, of course!

Obituary: Ümüt Çınar (Kmoksy) and Vinícius Medina Kern (Vmkern)

Turkish linguist wrote about languages and plants; Brazilian informaticist studied Wikimedia projects and education.

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From the editor: Hanami

It's an ecstasy, my spring.

Opinion: Talking about governments editing Wikipedia

Let them know what you think!

News and notes: Deeper look at takedowns targeting Wikipedia

Read this, then forget all about it.

In the media: The good, the bad, and the unusual

Life on the Wiki as usual!

Recent research: Explaining the disappointing history of Flagged Revisions; and what's the impact of ChatGPT on Wikipedia so far?

And WMF invites multi-year research fund proposals

Traffic report: All the world's a stage, we are merely players...

The Oscars, politics, and death elbow for the most attention.

Gallery: WikiPortraits rule!

The photographers are the celebrities!

Essay: Unusual biographical images

And very unusual biographical images.

Obituary: Rest in peace

Send not to know
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Special report: Wikipedian and physician Ziyad al-Sufiani reportedly released from Saudi prison

Fellow doctor Osama Khalid remains behind bars for "violating public morals" by editing.

In focus: WMF to explore "common standards" for NPOV policies; implications for project autonomy remain unclear

Major changes to core content policy, or still-developing plan for new initiative?

In the media: Indian judges demand removal of content critical of Asian News International

Defeat, or just a setback?

News and notes: 35,000 user accounts compromised, locked in attempted credential-stuffing attack

Plus: 30-year anniversary of wiki software commemorated.

Op-ed: How crawlers impact the operations of the Wikimedia projects

Our content is free, our infrastructure is not!

Opinion: Crawlers, hogs and gorillas

What is to be done?

Debriefing: Giraffer's RfA debriefing

Advice to aspirants: "Read RfA debriefs", including this one.

Obituary: RHaworth, TomCat4680 and PawełMM

Rest in peace.

Traffic report: Heigh-Ho, Heigh-Ho, off to report we go...

Snow White sinking, Adolescence soaring, spacefarers stranded, this list has it all!

News from Diff: Strengthening Wikipedia’s neutral point of view

The Wikimedia Foundation's announcement from Diff.

Comix: Thirteen

Gadzooks!

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Image descriptions

You should finish adding image descriptions to your page. I did one for you: [1] Anthony2106 (talk) 10:58, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm indifferent. My user page is far too stupid for most people to peruse. GMG ^talk 12:22, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about blind people? Anthony2106 (talk) 14:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not unsympathetic to blind people. I just don't care about my user page. I set it up years ago and have barely touched it. GMG ^talk 14:59, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We shouldn't feel empathetic[2] but just acknowledge that the page is less fun for them and it could be upsetting. Maybe I could write some for you later. Anthony2106 (talk) 01:30, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not trying to be a scold, but with respect to user pages, this is generally the sort of thing where you should mention it once and then move on. I understand your point, but arguing about it (even with a hefty degree of nominal civilly) is tantamount to simply coming out of nowhere to berate GMG over not sharing your priorities, which you might recognize isn't a very civil thing to do. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:06, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of the day, there are very many articles in mainspace that I'm sure are not compliant with accessibility standards. Nobody is going to be meaningfully impoverished by not having an image description on my userpage about how the Wikipedia mobile app kills puppies. GMG ^talk 17:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I thought every time you masturbate God kills a kitten, I didn't know the Wikipedia app kills puppies. Also I wasn't trying to beraid you over this and since I'm the only one botherd by it, I'll write the descriptions. Anthony2106 (talk) 11:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. But make them amusing. GMG ^talk 12:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, now you're tempting me to get in on it... ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not too stupid for me to peruse! Wait a minute... ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:04, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See, this is what happens when you use the lower-price spread. Who ever heard of a watchcat? Get quality household gods. Bring back Mr. Fuzzybottom! Qwirkle (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But...it's a cute picture... GMG ^talk 17:33, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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Why the revert?

I noticed that my edit on Clickbait was reverted by you. The reason was "We don't really offer guidance on specific products or services", even though I didn't offer any guidance and just cited the sources. Could you elaborate? Dabmasterars (talk) 16:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dabmasterars: The content wasn't about the subject of the article in the broad sense of an encyclopedic overview, but about a specific service. It's related to the subject of the article, but not actually about the subject. For example, we wouldn't go to Athlete's foot and offer extended advice about specific commercial products used to treat the condition. GMG ^talk 21:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 1 May 2025

News and notes: India cut off from Wiki money; WMF annual plan and Wikimedia programs seek comment

As always, Wikimedia community governance relies on user participation; plus, more updates from the Wikimedia world

In the media: Feds aiming for WMF's nonprofit status

Scrapers, an Indian lawsuit, and a crash-or-not-crash?

Recent research: How readers use Wikipedia health content; Scholars generally happy with how their papers are cited on Wikipedia

And other new research findings.

Arbitration report: Sysop Tinucherian removed and admonished by the ArbCom

And don't bite those newbies!

Discussion report: Latest news from Centralized discussions

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Traffic report: Of Wolf and Man

Television dramas, televised sports, film, the Pope, and ... bioengineering at the top of the list?

Disinformation report: At WikiCredCon, Wikipedia editors and Internet Archive discuss threats to trust in media

Community volunteers network among themselves and use technology to counter attacks on information sharing.

News from the WMF: Product & Tech Progress on the Annual Plan

A look at some product and tech highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation's Annual Plan (July–December 2024).

Humour: Crisis erupts as furious admins, functionaries complain about crappy t-shirts

Hey! At least it is something!

Comix: By territory

Zounds!

In focus: Using AI on the Russian Wikipedia: opportunities or challenges?

Would a billion articles be a good idea?

Community view: A deep dive into Wikimedia

There's a lot more to this than you think.

Debriefing: Barkeep49's RfB debriefing

I wonder about having crats, but decided to become one anyway.

Gallery: Meet the winners of Wiki Loves Monuments 2024

Just beautiful photos!

Obituary: JarrahTree, JohnClarknew and Yashthepunisher

Rest in Paradise.

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News and notes: WMF to kick off new-CEO quest as Iskander preps to move on — Supreme Court nixes gag of Wiki page for other India court row on ANI — code-heads give fix-up date for Charts in lieu of long-dead Graph gizmo

And comment is requested on a privacy whitepaper.

In the media: Wikimedia Foundation sues over UK government decision that might require identity verification of editors worldwide

And other courtroom drama.

Disinformation report: What does Jay-Z know about Wikipedia?

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In focus: On the hunt for sources: Swedish AfD discussions

Why the language barrier is not the only impediment to navigating sources from another culture.

Technology report: WMF introduces unique but privacy-preserving browser cookie

And QR codes for every page!

Debriefing: Goldsztajn's RfA debriefing

When an editor is ready to become staff at a public library (not a brother in a fraternity).

Obituary: Max Lum (User:ICOHBuzz)

Rest in peace.

Community view: A Deep Dive Into Wikimedia (part 2)

The technology behind it, and the other stuff.

Comix: Collection

Gadzooks!

From the archives: Humor from the Archives

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