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Sweden certifications and where to find it

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– Muhandes (talk) 07:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Belgian single certifications for 2008

Considering BRMA's original website does not make any distinction between albums and singles, I believe these are the missing thresholds for October 2008 onwards:

Gold: 15,000 (international) and 10,000 (national).
Platinum: 30,000 (international) and 20,000 (national).

If you check their March 2010 archive, no changes were made in the meantime either. Hope this helps. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 17:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GustavoCza: Can you please give a concrete example where the certifications shown are not what you expected? We had quite a number of discussions already on the subject, which you can find archive. Muhandes (talk) 08:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you take "Viva la Vida", for example, the table shows it was certified Platinum, but the sales field is empty. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 12:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GustavoCza: You're referring to the uncertainty around certification thresholds for singles released between November 2007 and May 2009. The consensus is that the source you cited pertains to albums, as it explicitly states "ventes d’un album". You can see what the BEA article says about singles here—this is also the basis for the current template.
I believe the issue is that the certification levels appear to have changed sometime between this document and this one, but the exact date is unknown.
You can find past discussions on this issue, such as this one, among others. Note that BEA was established in February 2008, so the period of uncertainty corresponds with the transition between organizations. Muhandes (talk) 13:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would finding the IFPI report from 2008 solve this issue? I can try it. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 16:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GustavoCza Any reliable source that sheds light on single certification in that period will help. Muhandes (talk) 20:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Polish Gold/Platinum certification - relyear or certyear

I was wondering if the polish certification from ZPAV go by certyear or by relyear. I always thought that they always go by certyear, but for albums that doesn't make sense according to the newest update.

The album "Dotyk" by Edyta Górniak was released in 1995 and certified 4x platinum in September 1997 for either 400k (by certyear), or 800k (by relyear), both for domestic repertoir.

It has been re-certified in May 2025 for Diamond, which would be only 150k by certyear, so it has to be relyear for 1M.

I'm looking for the source, that states that relyear is applicable and until when. In the article Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry there's the following paragraph:

Domestic repertoire requirements were set to 15,000/30,000/150,000 and foreign repertoire were set to 10,000/20,000/100,000. However, this change was applied only for albums released from July 2005 onwards.^[1]^[2]

But it only states the two threshold at this specific moment in 2005. Does this automatically mean that before July 2005, every cert was by relyear?

Maybe @Muhandes: can help here?

Best regards YGO24895 (talk) 15:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "ZASADY PRZYZNAWANIA ZŁOTYCH, PLATYNOWYCH I DIAMENTOWYCH PŁYT". zpav.pl. Archived from the original on 2006-10-18. Retrieved 26 August 2021.
^ "Listy bestsellerow, wyroznienia — Pełny Tekst Regulaminu Przyznawania Wyróżnień" (in Polish). Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry. Archived from the original on 21 July 2011. Retrieved 12 August 2011.

@YGO24895: Polish certifications for singles are listed by certification year. For albums, they also follow certification year, with the exception of a special case: releases from 2005 were treated differently during a limited period (June 2006 to June 2015). All of this is based on reliable sources.
Given how often the rules have changed—especially with the introduction of revenue-based thresholds—contradictions are inevitable. In such cases, it's acceptable to either list both certifications with explanatory notes or list one and mention the other in a note. Muhandes (talk) 13:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhandes:. Thanks for the clarification. YGO24895 (talk) 14:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Implementing Poland 2025 changes

I’ve implemented the Poland 2025 changes to certification levels as discussed here. Most notably, this includes an assumed conversion rate between revenue and units for singles, which was added in the absence of objections. Pinging @France3c0:, who originally requested this change. Muhandes (talk) 14:36, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "ZASADY PRZYZNAWANIA ZŁOTYCH, PLATYNOWYCH I DIAMENTOWYCH PŁYT". zpav.pl. Archived from the original on 2006-10-18. Retrieved 26 August 2021.

[2] "Listy bestsellerow, wyroznienia — Pełny Tekst Regulaminu Przyznawania Wyróżnień" (in Polish). Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry. Archived from the original on 21 July 2011. Retrieved 12 August 2011.

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