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The lead claims that Mu'awiya's nomination of his son as successor was an unprecedented move in Islamic politics. But a couple of paragraphs earlier, it also says that Mu'awiya seized power from Hasan ibn Ali, the son and successor of the previous caliph. This seems contradictory: should we be saying that it was almost unprecedented? Or is there some difference between the Ali–Hasan and Mu'awiya–Yazid successions that needs to be clarified? The source cited for this claim in the body is "Lewis 2002, p. 67" but the linked Google Books version doesn't actually have page numbers, so I haven't been able to check it. – Joe (talk) 12:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Joe Roe: The difference b/w Ali-Hassan and Mu'awiya-Yazid is that Hassan was not appointed/nominated by Ali. After Ali's assassination, Ali's confidants nominated Hassan and he was accepted by Ali's followers as caliph (See for example, Hassan ibn Ali in Encyclopedia of Islam, Second Edition; or Donner 2010, p. 166). Mu'awiya himself nominated Yazid and demanded allegiance for Yazid while he himself was alive. Here is what the cited source (Lewis 2002, p. 67) says (emphasis added):
A vital problem for the stabilization of the Empire was the regulation of succession. The only precedents available to Mu'awiya from Islamic history were election and civil war. The former was unworkable; the latter presented obvious drawbacks. The method of hereditary succession was still too alien to Arab ideas to be readily accepted. Mu'awiya, with characteristic diplomacy, found a compromise by nominating his son Yazid. The process is a good example of the way in which his tribal diplomacy functioned. The decision was taken by the Caliph and the Shura of Damascus. It was confirmed by consultation with the tribes through the Wufud, and only then promulgated. The opposition was overcome less by force than by persuasion and inducement.