Talk:M1297 Army ground mobility vehicle

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On 26 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Army Ground Mobility Vehicle to M1297 Army Ground Mobility Vehicle. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 26 February 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Uncontested move request. If the nom believes a merge is feasible, they can initiate a separate merge discussion. (non-admin closure) Colonestarrice (talk) 10:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Army Ground Mobility Vehicle → M1297 Army Ground Mobility Vehicle – Add type-classification per usual title conventions for U.S. Army vehicles. This will also help disambiguate with the M1288 GMV 1.1 and Ground Mobility Vehicle (USSOCOM). Also M1297 A-GMV or possibly M1297 A-GMV 1.1 would also be OK targets.

There is also an overarching Product Lead Ground Mobility Vehicle encompassing the Infantry Squad Vehicle. What a mess! Schierbecker (talk) 11:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 19:55, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alternately, move M1288 GMV 1.1 to M1288 GMV 1.1/M1297 A-GMV and merge this article there. The Army never formalized a competitive bid process for the AGMV, and is just buying A-GMVs through SOCOM. Schierbecker (talk) 00:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 28 March 2025

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

M1297 Army Ground Mobility Vehicle → M1297 Army ground mobility vehicle – Per WP:MILCAPS, words after the numerical model designator should be capped only if proper names/proper nouns, like Army is here but ground mobility vehicle is not. Dicklyon (talk) 02:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per MOS:MILCAPS. This is a description of the vehicle's function/role. It is not commensurate with Abrams that we would cap per the guidance. I had intended reviewing sources used in the article but many were dead links or could otherwise not be viewed. Of the four I could view: this does not use GMV but uses lowercase to introduce ULCV and LRV; this uses caps to introduce Rapid Insertion and Extraction Platform (RIEP) but uses other initialisms without introduction; this uses caps to introduce the initialism; as does this. I did a news search here, reviewing [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and [6]. Four of the ten results on the first page were not in English. In each case, capitalisation of the descriptive name was associated with introducing the initialism. While it is a style to capitalise an expanded abbreviation, per MOS:EXPABBR, we don't do that. Capitalisation in sources to introduce an initialism, either directly or in close proximity to its first use does not indicate that caps are necessary here. As an aside, I would observe that this is being done in the article and should be remedied. Cinderella157 (talk) 06:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.