Talk:European Union Police Mission for the Palestinian Territories

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Requested move 18 April 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to European Union Police Mission for the Palestinian Territories * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

European Union Police Mission in the Palestinian Territories → European Union Police Mission in Palestine – This article doesn't use the proper name, the proper name contains occupied Palestinian territories. Using the proper one is not necessary, only the popular one is. The name would not be confusing or referring to anything outside of the West bank and Gaza strip per this discussion. This means that the title would be more WP:CONCISE and would also use the WP:COMMONNAME. You likely already know this, but this Ngram shows that Palestine is more common. Easternsahara (talk) 21:08, 18 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 05:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Palestine, WikiProject European Union, and WikiProject Law Enforcement have been notified of this discussion. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 02:54, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The short name used by the EU is "European Union Police Mission in the Palestinian Territories".[1][2][3] The proper name is "European Union Mission for the Support of Palestinian Police and Rule of Law", which does not contain the words "occupied Palestinian territories". Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 02:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This mission functions in the Gaza strip and the West bank from the best of my understanding, the discussion says that these territories constitute Palestine. Most Wikipedia pages "Palestine" to refer to the "Palestinian territories" or the "State of Palestine". Easternsahara (talk) 02:28, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Easternsahara: In this case, the short name includes the words "Palestinian Territories" instead of "Palestine" as the EU is avoiding recognizing Palestine as a de jure state. Refactoring to "Palestine" would inaccurately imply that the European Union has recognized Palestinian sovereignty by officially attributing this police mission as being in Palestine.

Is there any reason it can't be EUPOL COPPS? Their official website[4] brands themselves that way and that appears to be more common than either of these contrived short names. I think they're trying to brand themselves similarly to INTERPOL so it is easily pronounceable. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: No Consensus, believe a relist, will help. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 05:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move to European Union Police Mission for the Palestinian Territories, this is the somewhat shorter proper name used by the EU in the sources above. Seems the EU intentionally use "Palestinian Territories" and "for" rather than "in". We could also consider the full proper name. The current isn't technically a proper name as a result, but I believe we should align with the name the EU use then create a more descriptive one as "in Palestine" would indicate. Oppose "EUPOL COPPS", unlikely to meet WP:ACROTITLE. Dank Jae 16:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support this, withdraw support for my original move. Easternsahara (talk) 13:17, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.