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Controversy regarding the number of Palestinian casualties in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 26 January 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Casualties of the Gaza war. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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The Children section states: "This disproportionate amount is mainly a result of the strip's very young population, of which 40% are below 14 years of age"

with source given: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2021/05/18/israeli-palestinian-conflict-mental-health-impact-traumatized-kids/5144155001/

This sort of sentence or implication does not occur in the article, and even if it did USA Today's ability to judge this is more than questionable.

Additionally: the article is from 2021 and as such is incapable of even considering the Gaza War situation.

Furthermore the entire idea and wording does not make sense. If Gaza has a population of 40% children then 40% of casualties being children is not disproportionate. It's precisely proportionate, and means Israel is killing Gazans indiscriminately, in their natural proportion, which it does.

As such the sentence should read something like "The high proportion of child victims is mainly a result of indiscriminate attacks on civilians by Israel.". That is not going to be difficult to find sources for either, while the current statement amounts to original research (except it's misinformation), is inappropriate and unsourced, not occuring in said article; it is merely an interpretation, erroneous deduction or distortion derived from the text.

As a saving grace you can throw in some "human shield" stuff, too, however embarrassing this is going to be, and which is not mainly responsible. Alternatively you can simply delete the entire sentence. Maybe that will be less painful.

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Pseudoantiquasi (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/reports/thematic-report-indiscriminate-and-disproportionate-attacks-during-conflict-gaza

This should do, but I will not interact with Wikipedia's "reliable source policy", so there are people better suited to finding acceptable source. I'm optimistic you can make it a list of 20 sources within 10 minutes. A Google search for "Gaza indiscriminate attacks" yields plenty of results, including the one above. Pseudoantiquasi (talk) 13:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Last update to the Gaza death toll plot was in January 2025. I've replotted this graph using the latest data from Gaza's Ministry of Health, using the dataset put together by Tech for Palestine.

Could you please insert the new graph in place of the old one? Maxime182752 (talk) 15:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Hi Maxime182752, thank you for making this graph! I inserted it, but with a somewhat shorter capture, as people can read that text when they click on the picture. Lova Falk (talk) 15:59, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lova Falk Thanks, appreciate it ^^ Maxime182752 (talk) 22:09, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]