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earlier comments

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Shouldn't there be a tag about this article partly describing a current event, due to the temporary bridge closure?

There seems to be some conflicting information between 144.131.44.139 and 58.164.217.47. It would probably be a good idea to see some more references on the page so we don't end up with information that is just wrong. --Nsmith 84 23:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to have to add a tag saying that this information may not be reliable until we can get some references for some of these dates. --Nsmith 84 01:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

proposed replacement bridge article name?

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bridge name???
LocationHobart, Tasmania
ProposerDepartment of Infrastructure, Energy and Resources
WebsiteOfficial website
StatusAwaiting funding
TypeBridge
Cost estimateAU$300 million (2014)1
Start date2019 onwards
StakeholdersTasmanian Government

See also: Bridgewater bridge replacement study

Evad37 — SatuSuro — Nbound — Chuq: I am of the belief that there is sound notability and ample sources to cite. However, as the proposed bridge is unnamed, I have no idea what to call said "future bridge" article. I even had a look here for inspiration but unfortunately have come up empty handed. Any advice my fellow Wikipedians can offer would be appreciated. Wiki ian 01:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bridgewater replacement bridge - is the safest, if they ever get beyond saying they are going to do it - they might even try a new name... until that time, Bridgewater replacement bridge is my suggestion. satusuro 02:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So you're suggesting I don't bother with a new article and place all relevant information on the proposed bridge on the existing article? Wiki ian 02:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a look here for inspiration - Category:Proposed bridges - but there doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency. Maybe New Bridgewater Bridge? What was the Tasman Bridge called before it was built? Might check Trove... --- Chuq (talk) 09:13, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mercury coverage ends in 1954 :( http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?l-usertag=tasman+bridge&q=+ -- Chuq (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Chuq: After browsing the sub categories of proposed bridges, I've only managed to come up with two other possibilities; Bridgewater Bridge replacement and Proposed River Derwent crossing. And in all honesty, I think your suggested article name; New Bridgewater Bridge is a far better candidate. I shall hold off on the creation of the article in the hope that others support your suggestion or add their views on the naming of the new article. Thankyou kindly :-) Wiki ian 12:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Bridge name

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The above discussion "proposed replacement bridge article name?" about the name is now 10 years old, and with the new bridge under construction and planning to open next year, I thought it warranted a fresh section :)

I was reading the following: https://bridgewaterbridge.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/306190/Rail.pdf, and it points out that the current bridge is the fourth bridge at this location (the under-construction bridge will be the fifth). There's no mention of any of the first three having different names - they've all been Bridgewater Bridge.

The only difference now is that the new (fifth) bridge is not connected to the causeway, unlike all the others. In fact many official references to the existing/previous bridge(s) use the name Bridgewater Bridge and Causeway.

Wish I had an answer - just more questions!

(On a totally different topic, this is at Bridgewater Bridge (Tasmania), but the disambiguation page Bridgewater Bridge only shows two other links - one of which isn't called "Bridgewater Bridge" and the other of which is a red link - that's a whole other discussion!)

-- Chuq (talk) 06:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

details

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The article does not have clear point of reference to the different bridges, and dates - the following probably doesnt help that much

  • 1831 - "The Courier". The Hobart Town Courier. Vol. IV, , no. 191. Tasmania, Australia. 18 June 1831. p. 2. Retrieved 4 September 2024 – via National Library of Australia.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)
  • 1849 - BRIDGEWATER BRIDGE. Built according to the provision of the Act of Council, 10 Viet. No. 11, Aug 18, 1846. opened April 20, 1849, and a proc, of his Excel. Sir W. Denison, dated April 23, 1849. Sc ... Wood's Tasmanian almanack., no.(1851), 1851-01-01, p.37

The point is that if someone was to check trove carefully, maybe the earlier combinations or road/rail and the various bridges might have existed. JarrahTree 07:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks sats! I was going to check Trove but you're way ahead of me! A good starting place anyway. Hopefully I'll get around to it on the weekend (or maybe not, given my track record!) -- Chuq (talk) 00:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge name, again

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So, the bridge was officially opened today and opens to regular traffic tomorrow!

I've moved this page to Bridgewater Bridge and the disambiguation page to Bridgewater Bridge (disambiguation). Reasoning is the same as when I mentioned this in the #Bridge name section above. This is unrelated to the following, but just something worth cleaning up first. This should be a very uncontroversial move, given there were only two other bridge on the disambig page - one was a red link, one wasn't actually called "Bridgewater Bridge" and this article has an order of magnitude more page views than either.

Other observations:

  1. Photos from the launch suggest the new bridge is called Bridgewater Bridge, not a different name. This fits with all previous bridges in this location (this is the fifth one)
  2. The old bridge will be closed to traffic as of tomorrow, and over the next year or so will be decommissioned - the causeway section will remain.
  3. There is no rail on the new bridge - there have not been rail services for a decade. The "easement" for want of a better word, remains where the old bridge was.

So for the time being, this article will be about all five bridges, with a natural emphasis on the 4th and 5th because of recentism. The primary infobox will be changed to refer to the new (fifth) one, and the existing one should be retained, moved further down the article.

I was fixing some links from templates - but several of them are on rail related templates. These should ideally refer to the old bridge, but at the moment they share an article.

Should bridges 1-4 be moved to a different article? Individually? As a group? And if so, what name(s)?

Some further sources on the older bridges: [1] [2]

-- Chuq (talk) 09:00, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a number of updates to the layout/structure. The new bridge opened to traffic at 8pm on June 1 (see [3] - Facebook link) so I have updated everything to present tense. Issues that I can see:
  • It's not possible to have categories about one specific bridge when this article contains information on many bridges. I've commented out any that don't apply to the new bridge, but the information should be retained somehow.
  • The infobox for the fourth bridge is mis-aligned since the content before that section is longer than the top infobox. Should fix itself as content is added.
-- Chuq (talk) 14:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Replying to myself, still! I've worked around the category issue by creating a redirect, Bridgewater Bridge (1946) and adding the categories there. This seems to do the trick.
Next issue is Wikidata. It's logical that each bridge should have it's own Wikidata entry (so far Bridgewater Bridge (Q913951) is the pre-existing (fourth) bridge, and Bridgewater Bridge (Q134688791) is a newly created entry for the fifth bridge. But only one of them can point to Bridgewater Bridge here. Bridgewater Bridge#Fourth bridge and Bridgewater Bridge (1946) both resolve to Bridgewater Bridge and therefore gives the error. -- Chuq (talk) 06:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox - bridge history table

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Some of the sources on older bridges conflicted. Compiling here.

Order Description Opening Carried Start
Constr-Opening		 End
- Causeway N/A - punt - 1830-36
First Causeway + Timber bridge Slide span road 1848-49 1893
Second Causeway + bridge Swing span rail (until 1906-07) 1874 1946
Third Causeway + bridge Swing span road
rail (from 1906-07)		 1893 1946
Fourth Causeway + Truss bridge Vertical lift 2-lane road, rail 1933-46 2025
Fifth Concrete box-girder N/A 4-lane road 2022-25
- 1836 1849 1874 1893 1906 1946 2014 2025
Road - First Third Fourth Fifth
Rail - Second Third Fourth -



-- Chuq (talk) 12:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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