Talk:Andy Murray

Calendar year section subtitles

I've trimmed down the heading next to the "2015" section, just because it contained far too much information, and I feel like the headings attached to each section should be brief summaries of the most important events of that particular season, rather than every single notable achievement. In the case of 2015, I felt winning the Davis Cup and finishing as number 2 in the world for the first time ranked above his first clay titles, 500th match win and another runner-up finish at the Australian Open, had he won in Melbourne for instance that would have merited it's own mention in the heading. Thetradge (talk) 2 December 2015, 00:24 (UTC)

my geography's not great, but....

"He then decided to move to Barcelona, Spain. There he studied at the Schiller International School in Florida and trained on the clay courts of the Sánchez-Casal Academy, coached by Pato Alvarez..."

spain... florida.... which one was it?

schiller has a campus in tampa & also madrid, but no mention of barcelona. the sanchez-casal academy is barcelona, though.

duncanrmi (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I think it should be swapped and have now done so, hope it reads OK... Crowsus (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Still doesn’t make sense to me. The there that starts the sentence is still connected to both his activities in Spain and Florida which is just wrong. The statement about him studying in Florida just doesn’t belong there at all. The source that is used to support it is actually rather vague about him in Florida and does not explicitly state it was the US campus he attended. Tvx1 00:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Murray's eleven majors

I agreed with the tweak to clarify that Murray was in eleven major finals, winning three. Using "further" in that sentence can confuse readers with sports like tennis and golf where the term "major" he a very specific meaning. Other tournaments can have significance, but they are not majors. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I can not believe the edits by Tvx1 on this page today! The meaning of the word "major" which is commonly used on wikipedia tennis pages (and in tennis generally) is a Grand Slam tournament. It is important to have clarity in statements on wikipedia. Tennishistory1877 (talk) 22:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

We may not always agree, but you are very correct in this. The term "major" means something very very specific in tennis and we have to be careful that our readers don't get confused. If we mean to use it in any other way then we need to use a different term. Terms like notable, significant, preeminent, substantial, etc... something other than "major" because of its historical wide-spread attachment to the four biggest events in the sport. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:19, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Great that you two think that's what everybody will think it means, but what you changed it too isn't any less confusing. Winning a major is not the same thing as playing a major match. The word major is used in a completely different linguistic meaning in both cases. The sentence did not claim he played the final of eleven further majors. It said he played in eleven further major finals. The word major is being used as an adjective to simply grade the importance of the finals mentioned. Both of you are just not listining to what I'm saying. Whomever added that sentence was clearly trying to intend to convey something different than what you are changing the sentence to. It's no up to us to change the entire meaning of the sentence. If the wording was confusing, we should change it to something that isn't but still retains the originally intended meaning. Tvx1 16:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

What is this complete nonsense you just posted! This has nothing to do with what I think and I have no interest in guessing what you or any other editor thinks. It is about how the word major is applied across wikipedia tennis pages. A major in the open era means a Grand Slam tournament. Murray reached 11 major finals in total, not a further 11 finals (further to what?, further to the the three he won which are listed?- that is incorrect, as he didn't reach 14 major finals, he reached 11)! If you prefer the wording to be 11 Grand Slam finals rather than major finals, then I would be fine with that, but on the other hand why should it be changed when the word major appears on so many other pages to describe Grand slam tournaments? What makes Murray's majors different to every other player's? In the words of John McEnroe "you can NOT be serious!" If a non-registered id behaved as you did then the edits would be undone on the grounds of mindless trolling. Tennishistory1877 (talk) 17:32, 17 February 2025 (UTC)