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Does Japan support Tatmadaw?

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Does Japan support the Tatmadaw? 93.70.114.163 (talk) 10:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any sources that say they do? If not, then probably no. LordOfWalruses (talk) 04:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://hrf.org/latest/shadows-of-support-japans-ties-with-burmas-military-junta/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/20/japans-government-should-stop-training-myanmars-military
These are reports by Human rights watch- so its definitely verifiable and trustworthy Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 10:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well no body want to take Myanmar refugees especially from USA. America support Ultranationalist protest in Thailand against monarchy and try expel immigrants. 1.47.148.79 (talk) 08:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn’t this article be moved back into the “current events” section on Wikipedia’s front page?

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The Myanmar Civil War is just as severe/important (if not more so) than most of the wars featured there, and with the Israeli invasion of Lebanon being removed from that section, why not replace it with a deadly conflict in dire need of media attention? LordOfWalruses (talk) 00:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The front page is based on media coverage- so this doesn't qualify. I tried back with Battle of Laukkai EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 11:58, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It has been and then been removed several times like a YoYo. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added Content for Chin Theatre

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I’m writing to discuss the inclusion of information on the Chin conflict in the Wikipedia article on the Myanmar Insurgency. While many insurgent groups are united against the military junta, it’s important to acknowledge that they are also fighting among themselves.

Recently, the Zo Reunification Organisation (ZoRO) successfully brokered a peace agreement between three key groups: the Chin National Army, Chin National Brotherhood, and the Zomi Revolutionary Army. This is a significant development, and I believe it should be added to the article to provide a more comprehensive picture of the conflict dynamics.

I’d like to open the floor for discussion on where this information could best be added within the article. Should it have its own subsection or be integrated into an existing section on the Chin region or inter-group conflicts?

Additionally, I’m looking for collaborators to create Wikipedia articles on this issue. I’m from Northeast India. I also understand the challenges of finding verifiable secondary sources for these topics and would greatly appreciate any assistance or guidance in this endeavor.

If anyone is interested in working together or has suggestions for sourcing reliable information, please let me know!

Tagging @EmeraldRange @IdioticAnarchist @Borysk5 Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 10:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources (Mostly News articles):
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/guwahati/making-efforts-to-unite-warring-chin-groups-in-myanmar-to-oust-junta-zoro/articleshow/111427292.cms
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/zoro-meeting-addresses-conflict-between-chin-revolutionary-groups
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/guwahati/zoro-appeals-to-un-for-reunification-of-ethnic-mizos-across-borders/articleshow/115627945.cms
https://english.dvb.no/factions-of-the-chin-resistance-reach-preliminary-peace-deal-brokered-in-northeast-india/
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/zoro-convenes-talks-between-chin-brotherhood-and-icncc
https://nenow.in/neighbour/myanmar/myanmar-based-zro-and-cnf-sign-peace-agreement-in-mizoram.html
There are more, which I would have to find!
https://esango.un.org/civilsociety/showProfileDetail.do?method=showProfileDetails&profileCode=6774
UN Address:https://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/Second_%20Decade_%20Mid_Eva_Answers/PDF%20version%20IPO/ZO%20Reunification%20organization_India.pdf
Papers that talks about ZoRO:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID4120561_code5256403.pdf?abstractid=4120561&mirid=1
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265363133_A_Historical_Study_of_the_'Zo'_Struggle
http://mzuir.inflibnet.ac.in:8080/jspui/bitstream/123456789/872/1/C.%20%20LALHRUAITHANGA%2C%20History.pdf
https://www.churachandpurcollege.edu.in/documents/PU030222131721.pdf
Also while searching for papers I have found a problem- most researchers in the region tends to publish in Journals that are inherently predatory: pay to publish. The above papers though are reliable Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Zo Reunification Organization Made the Page- gotta do a lot of work to expand it though Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 11:34, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BEBOLD and just WP:DOIT.
The article is organised by timeline, with major portions of the war and by region/operation within it. Please do not make a new subsection for just Chin theatre things- that exists at the dedicated article Chin theatre which was split off for the earlier part of the war but lacks updates.
Also, please note minor clashes should be in Timeline of the Myanmar civil war (2021-present). Peace between minor groups and statements are typically not newsworthy enough to be in the main article- since this article is already very long. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 14:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright thanks for the pointers Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 14:21, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Map Updates (January)

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Nitpicks, Suggestions, and Maps:

Indisputable Edits:

Disputable Edits:

IdioticAnarchist (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Updated! Thanks again
Suggestions:
  • PDF moved out of Rakhine
  • Control on Papun-Myainggyingu road updated per Irrawaddy map source
Indisputable Edits:
All implemented with the following notes:
  • Kutaw already marked as PDF controlled, no change made (ncm)
  • Yehlwe & Peinnepin, Yedashe already marked as PDF controled (ncm)
  • Muthe unfindable- Indaing Kone also not a GAD recognised village. "Muthel" is not in the correct KNU brigade area. (ncm)
  • CBA does not control Falam-Hakha road just the gate out of Falam towards Hakha
  • From what I read of the Tedim article, it's contested by three groups- the CBA, the CNF and the Junta/ZRA. I've made Tedim contested between four colours accordingly
  • DPLA already indicated in the Intaw area (ncm)
  • Pahoutkyi/Yae Paw Mee is already on the KIA-Junta front in Homalin Tsp. (ncm)
Disputable Edits:
  • Added PDF presence/controlling most of that road in the Salin area as none before
  • Verified Khitthit's reliability with AA source and implemented
  • MNlA-5 roughly added to RJC colour overlaid on border for visibility; Palai Japan is the same as Japan Yedwin
  • Added SSPP east of Momeik- article talks about them not really having any control in the town just on the outskirts
  • Added junta control on the road to Myaukkhinyan as the sagaing-magway area is a bit vague and this is a likely scenario on the ground
EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 21:11, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand did not "invite" the junta

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New Zealand only played the role as a host for the ASEAN meeting, New Zealand simply only approved the visas of the junta instead of "inviting" them.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/top/513161/ban-junta-leaders-from-asean-meeting-in-wellington-myanmar-community

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/513840/asean-summit-myanmar-community-asks-parliament-to-block-junta-representatives Rynoip (talk) 23:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does anybody have a source that actually states representatives of Myanmar's junta attended the meeting? The English-language sources I could find either do not touch on who attended or were written before the meeting, hence the attendance of the junta members was prospective. Yue🌙 06:36, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources also only state that protesters were against visas being granted, not that visas were actually granted, because the sources were written before the meeting. Yue🌙 06:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anyhow, I agree that we should add in if the Junta attended the meeting but the conception of New Zealand inviting the Junta is completely false. That section should probably be rewritten with the details you said. Rynoip (talk) 09:58, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It should be rewritten but I don't know it's accurate to say it's "completely false". The first article you link literally says that the MFAT stated that "As an ASEAN member, Myanmar has been invited to be represented at this annual senior officials' level dialogue between New Zealand and ASEAN." Specifically, the core issue I interpret from those protesting the invitation was on the implicit recognition of junta officials as officials representing Myanmar by NZ Immigration.
There is more nuance, of course, but an invitation is an invitation. As Yue said the better way to put this information in is to describe who actually attended the meeting, if any. I would be interested if New Zealand gave preference to competing attendees from NUG or the junta. I couldn't find any sources written about this meeting in Burmese after April 18th (the date of the conference) either. Based on the information from existing sources, I've tweaked the wording as inviting junta officials for now. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 14:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The protests about the junta is about them entering New Zealand, people urged the government to not approve the visas of the junta. New Zealand more of "approved" the junta in entering New Zealand rather than "inviting" the junta.
However about if the junta actually attended we have no idea if the junta attended at all. Rynoip (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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